3 Hesperids

[Painted Jezebel]

Going through my Hesperidae file, there are a few where I am beginning to doubt my IDs.

1) At first I had this as Coladenia agnoides. However, I am now pretty certain that this should be Coladenia laxmi sobrina.
2) I have this as Halpe aurifera, but I am not certain.
3&4) These are in my Cephrenes aculle file, simply because I am yet to come across a fully opened wing male showing the stigma of a Telicota species. However, they appear slightly different from my other C. aculle specimens, and I am wondering if this could be my first Telicota species, if so, which one?

[Psyche]

Coladenia laxmi is correct. The forewing hyaline spots, apical black shading, colouration and larger black black spots on the hindwing; the cellend mark is a bar whereas in agnioides it is a spot.
A single sub-basal black spot can be seen on the right forewing & below it is a long tear.Note vein 2 runs just above this black spot by comparing it with the left forewing. Two subbasal spots (but not black) visible in the correct position on left forewing.

Typical form Thailand. Note peculiarity, one black subbasal spot on right forewing.
http://www.savebutterfly.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2300.0;attach=3054 6;image

Halpe aurifera. Markings distinctly yellow (pale yellow in toxopea; yellowish white in kusala.) Interneural black spots large & tend to join.

3 & 4 Cephrenes acalle. The underside forewing subapical & the 2 spots in space 4 & 5 are very poorly defined in C. acalle. Hindwing spots variable.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Thank you.

I was quite sure of 1, but needed confirmation. Photo now added to web site.

I find the existing photos of some of the less frequently encountered Halpe sp. confusing. C&P4 gives no information relating to this particular species, Ek-Amnuay shows a poor photo and only gives Yala as a location and Pinratana simply shows an upperside, with no locations (which is unusual). Yutaka gives little help and Funet is next to useless. Do you know its known range and how common it is, I have only seen it twice.

Ah well, still waiting for a Telicota sp. I was hoping! I do find it strange that I have never come across a single specimen up here.

[Psyche]

An oopsie here. I wasn't quite certain of the ID of the Halpe, what with all the confusing images on the net.

However I have 2 valid pics. of H. aurifera and they are identical, C&P4 pl. 54/25 & Fleming H87.
1. Interneural spots and marginal area of the hindwing enhanced with black so they are more contrasting.
2. A distinct round spot at the cellend.
3. Veins across hindwing band not distinctly darkened.
4. Colour should be a rich yellow.

Two valid pics. of H. toxopea, C&P4 pl.54/23 & Fleming H88.
1. Interneural spots & marginal area not enhanced with black.
2. No distinct spot at the cell-end.
3. Hindwing band the veins distinctly darkened.
4. Colour should be a pale yellow.

This skipper matches Fleming H88 quite well.

H. toxopea & aurifera are closely related and toxopea was once considered a subspecies of aurifera.
Distribution: H. aurifera ; South Myanmar to Sumatra.
H. toxopea : South Myanmar to Sundaland.
Both are rather rare insects.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Angiud]

Is not my intention to hijack the thread, but being about Thai Hesperiidae...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6308449783_5a0f617464.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/6308449783/)
UnID (http://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/6308449783/)

Today, up in the forest around the creek with the huge bee nest (Les, you know where). A Bush Hopper??

[Painted Jezebel]

H. toxopea & aurifera are closely related and toxopea was once considered a subspecies of aurifera.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thanks. At least I was not that far out! I'd better change the website!:cry:

[Psyche]

Is not my intention to hijack the thread, but being about Thai Hesperiidae..

Today, up in the forest around the creek with the huge bee nest (Les, you know where). A Bush Hopper??

It is.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

This is my last chance to find out if I do have a Telicota species on Samui.

These three were found by accident lurking in an odd file that I had not looked at for ages. I am pretty sure the first is C. aculle, the third probably is as well, but the second one is making me wonder.

[Psyche]

All 3 are C. acalle. The female (2nd) is extremely variable.
All Telicota females have well-defined spots on the forewing (& hindwing).

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Thank you. No Telicota on Samui, yet! Very strange!!