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Chequered Lancer
26-Jul-2013, 07:30 PM
Before I begin. I sincerely apologise for asking for IDs all the time. My knowledge on moths isn't that good. :embrass:
I'll just use this thread to place my pictures for ID confirmations purposes. Thank you for all the IDs, well, in Advance. :thank_you
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1010027_542369962497278_1045487572_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1006144_549963088404632_1026754170_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1567_551290801605194_629865003_n.jpg
Are the next two shots two separate species, or is it just sexual dimorphism?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420393_529110900489851_1359049023_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/21415_558908750843399_1091921795_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/998210_557185904349017_985566283_n.jpg
Psyche
27-Jul-2013, 04:53 PM
No. 1 should be Arctornis singaporensis.
It matches the description well.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/arctornithini/arctornithini_1_69.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
27-Jul-2013, 08:08 PM
Thank you. What about the others?
Psyche
27-Jul-2013, 10:04 PM
Last one is probably Lymantria alexandrae.
The intensity of the black markings varies from region to region.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/lymantriini/lymantriini_1_8.php
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&biw=689&bih=559&tbm=isch&tbnid=44jaCLv5N3u0AM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/artour_a/384087168/&docid=esfTj9fNO1ZE0M&imgurl=http://farm1.staticflickr.com/179/384087163_e29e33fc76_s.jpg&w=75&h=75&ei=LcDzUZOWOorprAekzoD4Ag&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:4,s:0,i:94&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=157&tbnw=192&start=0&ndsp=8&tx=131&ty=49
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
29-Jul-2013, 10:14 AM
The 2nd is a Spodoptera species. There are 4 widespread species namely S. litura, mauritia, pecten & cilium.
The markings are variable. This appeared to match the female S. mauritia best.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-12/amphipyrinae/amphipyrinae_11_1.php
Female from Re'union.
http://www.drlegrain.be/0reunion/nuit/aclasser4/Spodoptera%20mauritia%20mauritia%20Boisduval%20183 3%200232.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
29-Jul-2013, 10:54 AM
The 3rd should be Endotricha olivacealis, another widespread & variable species.
This individual is very worn & most of the scales are lost, but the inner narrow band is distinctive.
Examples from HK & Korea.
http://www.pbase.com/andrew57/image/81001979
http://www.kobis.re.kr/images/GOOGLE_IMG/www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Mikunikai100619/62_Pyralidae/Endotricha%20olivacealis_100619636.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
30-Jul-2013, 01:05 AM
Anyone know what No. 4 & 5 are or comes under which family?
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
30-Jul-2013, 08:10 AM
They are of the superfamily Pyraloidea, probably either Pyralidae or Crambidae (I suspect the latter as they are more widespread). Superficially the two families are very similar.
Psyche
30-Jul-2013, 09:45 AM
They are of the superfamily Pyraloidea, probably either Pyralidae or Crambidae (I suspect the latter as they are more widespread). Superficially the two families are very similar.
They (4 & 5) are rather distinctive , but no match found.
If they are widespread or pest species, there is always a chance they (or a closely allied species) will appear on the web.
Judging from their pix on lichened tree trunks, they are forest species & probabaly restricted Sundainian forms.
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
30-Jul-2013, 10:15 PM
They (4 & 5) are rather distinctive , but no match found.
If they are widespread or pest species, there is always a chance they (or a closely allied species) will appear on the web.
Judging from their pix on lichened tree trunks, they are forest species & probabaly restricted Sundainian forms.
TL Seow:cheers:
Seen a few similar individuals, but never managed to shoot them... Here's one found in an urbanized area.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554881_562096640524610_850116140_n.jpg
And here's one shot by my friend. Could it be one of the Spodopteras?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/999383_665131676833198_1283477352_n.jpg
Psyche
02-Aug-2013, 08:15 AM
Post 10.
No correct match found.
The 2nd should be a Noctuid.
This Thaibugs site have one ( unidentified 18 ) which is a fair match.
If you compare the left forewing with your pic. from tip to base you will notice the light & dark patches including the eye-like spot more or less match up.
Conceivably it could be the same species (given individual variation /ssp difference) or belong to the same genus.
Unfortunately it also remains unidentified.
http://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=241
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
03-Aug-2013, 01:47 AM
Post 10.
No correct match found.
The 2nd should be a Noctuid.
This Thaibugs site have one ( unidentified 18 ) which is a fair match.
If you compare the left forewing with your pic. from tip to base you will notice the light & dark patches including the eye-like spot more or less match up.
Conceivably it could be the same species (given individual variation /ssp difference) or belong to the same genus.
Unfortunately it also remains unidentified.
http://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=241
TL Seow:cheers:
I see your point. Well no worries, we'll get back to those later.
Right now I have a few more up for IDs
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59621_562509140483360_410915233_n.jpg
Arctornis sp (?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/183596_562509147150026_1669347654_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/993936_563402747060666_492034019_n.jpg
Completely new to this one. Haven't seen it before.
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1098477_563402823727325_83484638_n.jpg
And here's it's underside.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1013002_563402813727326_1905869835_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/992962_563402903727317_2059452825_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1098286_563402917060649_754569862_n.jpg
Psyche
03-Aug-2013, 10:36 AM
Post 12
1. unknown ? Crambidae.
2. Arctornis ?phasmodes. Closest match.
Probably only 3 or 4 species of Artornis in Singapore.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/arctornithini/arctornithini_1_15.php
3. Close to Ngymia epitrotica, but could be in another Family. Correction : Somena similis.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/nygmiini/nygmiini_8_6.php
4 & 5.
Leucoma ?impressa. Only 2 species in our region so this is probably right. You may have a better topside to compare.
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4063/4369866717_73ffe5ee31_o.jpg
6. Metaemere atriguttata[/I].Correction : [I]Metaemene atrigutta.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2791/4199895672_893b9f80ce_m.jpg
7. unknown.
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
03-Aug-2013, 11:41 AM
I am sure No 3. is Somena similis (Lymantriinae)
Seow, I have a very similar species, but different, to that id'd as Metaemere atriguttata. I have tried to Google the Genus, but with no results. Which family does it belong to (I had thought probably Arctiinae)? Is there any info on this Genus available?
Jerome, sorry to butt into your thread, but here is the Samui specimen, note additional spots on the forewing dorsum.
Psyche
03-Aug-2013, 02:27 PM
I am sure No 3. is Somena similis (Lymantriinae)
Seow, I have a very similar species, but different, to that id'd as Metaemere atriguttata. I have tried to Google the Genus, but with no results. Which family does it belong to (I had thought probably Arctiinae)? Is there any info on this Genus available?
Jerome, sorry to butt into your thread, but here is the Samui specimen, note additional spots on the forewing dorsum.
You are right No. 3 is Somena similis. I went thru the images several times yet missed it because it was so small & low-res.
Sorry , the name is Metaemene atriguttata, Noctuidae , Acotiniinae.
It does look a good match to yours as well except for the 2 extra spots & reticulation.
http://rvision.daydreamlabs.com/user/30628571@N04/set/72157607538370690?page=16&per_page=50&size=small
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. A check shows the correct name & spelling is Metaemene atrigutta.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/8658268478/
Painted Jezebel
03-Aug-2013, 06:23 PM
Thanks. I think I may be able to find several on my UFOs there. Acotiinae are not in Moths of Borneo yet nor Pinratana's volumes.
Psyche
03-Aug-2013, 07:17 PM
Thanks. I think I may be able to find several on my UFOs there. Acotiinae are not in Moths of Borneo yet nor Pinratana's volumes.
I happened to have a copy of Moths of Borneo with Noctuiidae, Acontiinae inside (published by Malayan Nature Journal)
However, for Metaemene there is little to go on. Most in the book are Bornean endemics from the revision done.
Jerome's shot is M. atrigutta (readily ID'ed by its more even brown ground colour.)
Two other considered common & found outside Borneo as well (records sporadic due to revision ) are M. niasica & robusta(sp. novo).
They both have a pinky brown ground with varying white reticulate pattern, but none have the extra 2 spots.
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
03-Aug-2013, 08:58 PM
I would like to thank you guys for helping me a lot with the IDs. :grin2:
More shots on the way.
Found this large, stocky moth, roughly 8 cm from head to wingtip. Unfortunately, no dorsal shots. It flew off after a few shots.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1013120_553343338066607_672041375_n.jpg
Here's an underside shot, if it helps. :embrass:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/36609_553343404733267_1938776878_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75509_558908697510071_906870333_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/643866_558908700843404_967169076_n.jpg
Painted Jezebel
03-Aug-2013, 09:43 PM
I happened to have a copy of Moths of Borneo with Noctuiidae, Acontiinae inside (published by Malayan Nature Journal)
TL Seow:cheers:
Thank you again!.
I think I can't get volume 2 (Zygaenidae), volume 13 ( Noctuidae-Acontiinae) nor volume 17 (certain Noctuidae subfamilies) on the net. Very frustrating, as I could, at least, get to Genus level, and then do further searches.
Regarding the Metaerene sp. I have managed to find other ssp. which have the additional spots, like mine. I think the id is acceptable, but 'under review'.
Psyche
03-Aug-2013, 11:11 PM
Thank you again!.
I think I can't get volume 2 (Zygaenidae), volume 13 ( Noctuidae-Acontiinae) nor volume 17 (certain Noctuidae subfamilies) on the net. Very frustrating, as I could, at least, get to Genus level, and then do further searches.
Regarding the Metaerene sp. I have managed to find other ssp. which have the additional spots, like mine. I think the id is acceptable, but 'under review'.
I only have a few volumes. A few volumes are also not published in MNJ.
It would appear that the micromoths (Crambidae, Pyralidae etc) are left out completely.
It certainly is frustrating and daunting to try & ID.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
04-Aug-2013, 12:54 AM
Post 18.
1 & 2 is most likely Lebeda cognata.
This species has been recorded in Singapore.
A couple of somewhat similar species in P. Malaysia ie. L. agnata & nobilis but unlikely.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/lasiocampidae/lasiocampidae_3_1.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
05-Aug-2013, 11:47 AM
Post 18.
I am fairly confident no. 3 is Genusa simplex , Geometridae, probably the only species in the genus here.
As stated in the text, the markings varies & may be weak.
The text image the FW marginal spots on the left.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Hypochrosini/hypochrosini_4_1.php
This Sumatran example is devoid of spots but the grey banding is similar.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxon=Genusa
Correction. no 3 is Cerasana anceps.
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
05-Aug-2013, 12:13 PM
I think the last one is more likely a Cerasana species (Notodontiae). Its resting position is not typical of Geometrids, and I have photo of a previously unrecorded Thai species which is closer.
Psyche
05-Aug-2013, 10:03 PM
I think the last one is more likely a Cerasana species (Notodontiae). Its resting position is not typical of Geometrids, and I have photo of a previously unrecorded Thai species which is closer.
You are right it is Cerasana anceps. The FW marginal spots matched.
The brownish colour of the old specimen have caught me off-guard.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-4/cerasana/notodontidae_13_1.php
I know most Geometrids rest with FWs raised, but the whole thing is rather confusing.
Time to permanently retire the wording "fairly confident".:thinking:
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
05-Aug-2013, 10:25 PM
Time to permanently retire the wording "fairly confident".:thinking:
TL Seow:cheers:
Oh no! 'Fairly confident' allows me a bit of leeway!!!! :)
Chequered Lancer
06-Aug-2013, 09:23 PM
Congrats Les! :cheers:
Next flash coming.
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/217333_529119000489041_1339374522_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/486665_529111060489835_1214614287_n.jpg
Ambulyx moorei (?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/389990_529110880489853_1525968546_n.jpg
Theretra nessus (?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/600948_529111123823162_680119340_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/969718_542371509163790_716135411_n.jpg
Psyche
07-Aug-2013, 12:02 AM
Post 26.
1. Krananda semihyalina.Geometridae.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2189/2290604951_9e22452f03_z.jpg
5. Hyposidra talaca. Geometridae.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_7_1.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
07-Aug-2013, 08:45 AM
No.2 looks close to Cyclosus inclusus - Zygaenidae. However, the black markings seem much more extensive, even for a female.
No.3 is Ambulyx moorei- Sphingidae.
No. 4 is Theretra nessus - Sphyngidae
Psyche
07-Aug-2013, 04:33 PM
No.3 is Ambulyx moorei- Sphingidae.
Not sure if this is the valid name.
Moth of Borneo list this sepcies as A. subocellata westwood 1847 but made no mention of A. moorei in the text (including under A. substrigilis).
Funet put subocellata 1874, as a junior synonym of moorei 1858, quoting Moore as the author of his own name ( contravening ICZN rule).
Lepindex put moorei 1858 as a synonym of subocellata in error quoting Butler as the author of moorei.
It however, also place moorei 1858 Boisduval as a synonym od A. substrigilis 1874 Westwood.
Boisduval is the correct author of A. moorei 1858 which is a synonym of A. substrigilis(possibly a variety by some).
I don't think A. moorei have been upgraded to a full species from A. substrigilis (thereby creating a new species absent from the Bornean list).
http://www.archive.org/stream/catalogueoflepid01east#page/265/mode/1up
A helpful feature of T. nessus is the pale patch on FW apex & the pinky abdominal sides.
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
07-Aug-2013, 05:55 PM
Not sure if this is the valid name.
Moth of Borneo list this sepcies as A. subocellata westwood 1847 but made no mention of A. moorei in the text (including under A. substrigilis).
Funet put subocellata 1874, as a junior synonym of moorei 1858, quoting Moore as the author of his own name ( contravening ICZN rule).
Lepindex put moorei 1858 as a synonym of subocellata in error quoting Butler as the author of moorei.
It however, also place moorei 1858 Boisduval as a synonym od A. substrigilis 1874 Westwood.
Boisduval is the correct author of A. moorei 1858 which is a synonym of A. substrigilis(possibly a variety by some).
I don't think A. moorei have been upgraded to a full species from A. substrigilis (thereby creating a new species absent from the Bornean list).
http://www.archive.org/stream/catalogueoflepid01east#page/265/mode/1up
TL Seow:cheers:
Check here (http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_moo.htm) , where is states the two were synonymised to A. moorei.
The same is quoted by Inoue, Kennett & Kitching in Moths of Thailand, volume 2, 1997, Sphingidae. p.35. but adds " Horsfield & Moore..........1: 266, nec Boisduval [as a syn. of Ambulyx substrigalis Westwood]".
The synonymy was undertaken by Kitching & Spitzer, 1995 :An annotated checklist of the Sphingidae of Vietnam, p.178. Tinea 14: 171-195.
Moth of Borneo, volume 3 was published prior to 1995, in 1987.
Psyche
07-Aug-2013, 06:41 PM
Check here (http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_moo.htm) , where is states the two were synonymised to A. moorei.
The same is quoted by Inoue, Kennett & Kitching in Moths of Thailand, volume 2, 1997, Sphingidae. p.35. but adds " Horsfield & Moore..........1: 266, nec Boisduval [as a syn. of Ambulyx substrigalis Westwood]".
The synonymy was undertaken by Kitching & Spitzer, 1995 :An annotated checklist of the Sphingidae of Vietnam, p.178. Tinea 14: 171-195.
Moth of Borneo, volume 3 was published prior to 1995, in 1987.
Quite right here. I happened to have the last volume of Moths of Borneo cotaining the Phaudidae , Himantopteridae & what is left over of Zygaenidae (a pity). It has an Anontated Checklist with the revised name.
Ambulyx moorei was named by Boisduval. Horsfield & Moore's revision placed Moore's name as the author of the revised taxon moorei.
Otherwise, Moorei cannot name a species after himself.
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
07-Aug-2013, 09:59 PM
Quite right here. I happened to have the last volume of Moths of Borneo cotaining the Phaudidae , Himantopteridae & what is left over of Zygaenidae (a pity). It has an Anontated Checklist with the revised name.
Ambulyx moorei was named by Boisduval. Horsfield & Moore's revision placed Moore's name as the author of the revised taxon moorei.
Otherwise, Moorei cannot name a species after himself.
TL Seow:cheers:
I agree entirely that Moore should not have named the sp. after himself (if he actually did, which I doubt, if my tutorship 45 years ago is anthing to go by, Moore was a very well respected entomologist in England). My latin is now rubbish, what does 'nec' mean with reference to Boisduval?
Psyche
08-Aug-2013, 01:33 AM
I agree entirely that Moore should not have named the sp. after himself (if he actually did, which I doubt, if my tutorship 45 years ago is anthing to go by, Moore was a very well respected entomologist in England). My latin is now rubbish, what does 'nec' mean with reference to Boisduval?
Normally nec- , nex means death Gk nekro as in necrophilia.
However, Boisduval was alive even in 1875.
The page 266 in the Catalogue is the one below.
Under Ambulyx substrigilis is Ambulyx moorei Boisduval.
Then a: Java (A. moorei Boisd) From Dr Horsfield's collection.
http://www.archive.org/stream/catalogueoflepid01east#page/265/mode/1up
I can't make any sense out of it.
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. I figure my limited Latin wouldn't make any sense out of it.
Here is the real thing. Nec means 'neither...nor' ;also means ' (and) not'.
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/basicsoflatin1/qt/LatinConjunctio.htm
Chequered Lancer
08-Aug-2013, 06:18 PM
Three more moths. :grin2:
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1006316_566028540131420_1407032161_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1150919_566028600131414_1319166002_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/17760_566028633464744_141082833_n.jpg
Psyche
08-Aug-2013, 07:12 PM
Post 34.
No. 1 is Celenna festivaria , Geometridae.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Hypochrosini/hypochrosini_3_1.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
09-Aug-2013, 09:24 AM
No. 3 is Rhimphaliodes macrostigma (Crambidae).
No. 2 is plainly a Geometrid, but there are a large number of very similar species. Probably an Ennominae sp.
Psyche
09-Aug-2013, 09:57 AM
No. 3 is Rhimphaliodes macrostigma (Crambidae).
No. 2 is plainly a Geometrid, but there are a large number of very similar species. Probably an Ennominae sp.
I have exhausted myself going through the Geometridae, so I am throwing in the towel.
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
09-Aug-2013, 10:41 AM
I have exhausted myself going through the Geometridae, so I am throwing in the towel.
TL Seow:cheers:
Sorry, but so do I!!!
Jerome, don't be put off by non-ids, I have over 50% over my moth photos without any id (primarily Geometridae, Noctuidae and Pyraloidea). For many, the only reliable method of confirming the species is by examination of genitalia, impossible by photos.
Chequered Lancer
13-Aug-2013, 04:18 PM
Here's an Erebid.
Lygniodes hypoleuca (?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998632_566436293423978_28686745_n.jpg
Painted Jezebel
13-Aug-2013, 04:45 PM
I think it should be Lygniodes endoleucus, not L. hypoleuca. My resources show that the latter sp. is not found south of the Thai border. The yellow on the abdomen is also distinctive. It is a male.
I had always thought it belonged to the Catocalinae (Erebidae), but checking Roger's site, it appears to have changed. Catocalinae seems to have disappeared completely, by being chopped up into smaller sub-families. I suspect that until I get to know what is where now, I will be saying 'ex-Catocalinae'!
Chequered Lancer
13-Aug-2013, 05:16 PM
Thanks Les! :grin2:
I think I'll just go by Catocalinae for now. Haha! :bsmile:
Psyche
13-Aug-2013, 11:59 PM
I have the last volume of Moths of Borneo which according to the preface is equivalent to part 2 plus the annotated checklist.
No match to the Cyclosia -like moth though.
Lygniodes is in Tribe Erebini. Subfamily Erebinae, Family Erebidae.(note subfamily name Erebinae have priority over Catocalinae.)
Erebidae also includes the downgraded subfamilies Lymantriinae & Artiinae plus a host of many small subfamilies.
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
02-Sep-2013, 07:24 PM
Thank you, Les and Dr Seow for thoroughly going through their IDs. :thank_you
More moths.
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1014207_577944475606493_786160219_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1150964_577944485606492_1292863923_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562312_577944622273145_2089983984_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1240277_577944585606482_981651105_n.jpg
The next two moths look very similar. :thinking:
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1240152_577944718939802_253123843_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/8576_577944688939805_2051193875_n.jpg
Psyche
03-Sep-2013, 01:19 AM
Post 41.
1. Appeared to be a Hemithea spp, similar to the European H. aestivaria. Geometridae.
http://www.davefenwick.com/roscadghill/images/moths/moth_hemithea_aestivaria_common_emerald_06-08-12_1.jpg
2. Appeared to be Erythrolophus fascicorpus. Geometridae. (fascicorpus = banded body)
The HW black ring is distinctive, but the abdominal black not quite matching ? different sex/variant/abraded.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/rhodostrophiini/rhodostrophiini_5_1.php
3. Appeared to be Ophthalmitis rufilauta Geometridae,by this website, but the marginal lacy markings seem to varies alot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1/9582456546/in/set-72157611945417047
Correction
Ophthalmitis rufilauta is endemic to Borneo.
The allied form in Sumatra, Malaya & peninsular Thailand is described as Ophthalmitis ogatai.
The ID feature is the HW brown patch with the eyespot (similar to rufilauta.)
The greenish dappling & intricate pattern fades in set specimen.
http://www.niaes.affrc.go.jp/inventory/insect/lepimages/048_1_O_ogatai.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
03-Sep-2013, 06:34 AM
Post 41 No. 4.
This should be Pangrapta lasiophora. Erebinae.
The FW apex has a pair of lunulate (moon-shaped) marks which matched the upperside of this species.
Note the lower margin of the HW is entire with a broad notch in space 3.(Also matched.)
This species appeared to be only known from Borneo & Sumatra before.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/pangraptini/pangraptini_1_2.php
Two other possibilties may be ruled out.
P. shivula. Widespread. FW apical marks lunulate, but not so strongly V -shaped; HW lower margin with ?extra tooth (male).
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/pangraptini/pangraptini_1_1.php
P. holophaea. Recorded in Singapore, but FW apical marks not lunulate & HW lower margin with three teeth.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/pangraptini/pangraptini_1_8.php
Correction
This should be Pangrapta shivula instead.
Apart from the difficulty of ascertaiinig the ID features , there is also the variability factor.
The description states shivula is more ochreous both upperside/ underside than lasiophora (which is more violet).
There is hardly any violet tinge in this individual.
TL Seow:cheers:
guldsmed
03-Sep-2013, 02:17 PM
Last ones could be some Lemyra?
Chequered Lancer
03-Sep-2013, 10:52 PM
Last ones could be some Lemyra?
Lemyras look pretty similar, but we can't be too sure yet.
Unknown micro-moth. Thought it was a colourful planthopper at first! But after some scrutiny, I concluded it was a moth. :embrass:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1236751_578888825512058_1136785589_n.jpg
guldsmed
04-Sep-2013, 01:44 PM
Last one is a very good match for Eublemma ostrina, but I do not think (according to FUNET), that it occurs i your area. My source may be wrong, as it rellay looks like that species. Alternatively it is just replaced by a sibling species in the oriental region. I can not find any info about that either...
So it is not a micro but a noctuid in the broad sense belonging to Eublemminae under Erebiidae.
guldsmed
04-Sep-2013, 02:26 PM
There is an Eublemma cochylioides which occurs in Hong Kong, Borneo, Australia and probably all areas in between which is very similar, maybe that one. But I am not aware of all possibilities. Eublemma is certain though.
Edit: Actually Eublemma cochylioides is not just similar, but a real good match, I think it must be that one.
Chequered Lancer
04-Sep-2013, 05:02 PM
There is an Eublemma cochylioides which occurs in Hong Kong, Borneo, Australia and probably all areas in between which is very similar, maybe that one. But I am not aware of all possibilities. Eublemma is certain though.
Edit: Actually Eublemma cochylioides is not just similar, but a real good match, I think it must be that one.
Searched Eublemma cochylioides up. Your're right! It's a very good match! Are there any other similar species?
Psyche
04-Sep-2013, 10:00 PM
Great work.
Agreed. It is E. cochylioides. The 2 spots on the FW seem to be distinctive for this species. Widespread from southern Europe, Africa to New Caledonia.
No match from Lemyra though. The antennae are also different.
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
05-Sep-2013, 07:36 PM
Arctornis sp (?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75920_579245848809689_48767066_n.jpg
Psyche
05-Sep-2013, 11:41 PM
Post 52.
It is certainly Arctornis species but unfortunately no match found in Moths of Borneo.
Note the distinctive features.
1. Prominent black discal spot.
2. FW costa & both termens (FW & HW) lightly brownish.
3. Body greenish white ( most spp. seem to have brownish bodies.); legs whitish.
4. Wings with white irrorations & the veins greenish.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
06-Sep-2013, 08:11 AM
A check shows this Arctornis should be Arctornis camurisquama. TL Singapore.
It match the description here.
http://www.archive.org/stream/novitateszoologi38lond#page/54/mode/1up
Fig 22.
http://www.archive.org/stream/novitateszoologi38lond#page/n334/mode/1up
Matching features described; brownish edgings; discal dark spot ; 'bald' (smooth) area FW apical 1/3; whitish body.
The Arctornis species in Singapore are , A. camurisquama, egerina, hipparia, riquata, phrika, perfecta, marginalis, flora & nivosa.
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
06-Sep-2013, 02:15 PM
Going through my old shots. Found this old shot. I remembered Dr. Seow classifying this as an Arctornis sp. Have any ideas of it's exact ID yet? :confused:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969490_580113372056270_2085159315_n.jpg
Psyche
06-Sep-2013, 07:59 PM
This should be Arctornis hipparia. TL Singapore.
http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsmagazineof6121893lond#page/213/mode/1up
Matching description: Small black spot; wings entire surface flecked with silvery scales; FW costa & cilia flesh-coloured ; branches of antenna greyish(-brown).
Only one other (apart from A. camurisquama) fully white Sng. species have the margins brownish, A. marginalis but is without the black spot.
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
07-Sep-2013, 01:27 AM
Thank you for the notes Dr. Seow! Here's two more taken a few minutes ago.
Spotted something like this last year. It's my second time shooting a moth like this.
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1831_580307188703555_671004877_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1185571_580415662026041_1667617956_n.jpg
Psyche
07-Sep-2013, 05:38 PM
Post 57.
No. 1 No match for this although it looks familiar.
Tried most of the Noctuinae (formerly Noctuidae alone) & some Crambidae with no result.
No. 2. Chilo sacchariphagus sacchariphagus Crambidae.
Widespread pest of cultivation especially of sugarcane & rice in Asia.
http://www.nbaii.res.in/insectpests/Chilo-sacchariphagus.php
Forewing may have a black discal spot, but probably not in our region.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Crambinae/Chilo_sacchariphagus_stramineellus.html
A 2nd pest species C. supressalis have the wings unlined.
http://www.russellipm-agriculture.com/uploads/media/chilo%20suppressalis%20adult.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
In Post 43. the moth should be a Hemithea species since all other green genera have the white lies/bands much less sinuous (wavy)
Of the Sundanian species found here, namely H. wuka, notospila, melalopha, antigrapha, & marina , only H. marina have the right rounded shape.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/gallery.php
There is unfortunately very little information on it & no image on the web.
However, it is a very small species. So if the moth is rather small it is likely to be this species.
Chequered Lancer
09-Sep-2013, 04:49 PM
Had some time to kill last night. Managed a few shots.
Seen these moths countless times. But I''m still unsure of the ID. :embrass:
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1000336_581711821896425_2068492923_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1234409_581712011896406_1216222105_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1175544_581711825229758_1613697640_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1235528_581712015229739_1284569373_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1175116_581712031896404_2102068906_n.jpg
The body structure of this moth seems to match the unknown one in post 57, except this one's smaller.
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/970572_581712101896397_149790054_n.jpg
Chequered Lancer
09-Sep-2013, 05:48 PM
Post 57.
TL Seow:cheers:
In Post 43. the moth should be a Hemithea species since all other green genera have the white lies/bands much less sinuous (wavy)
Of the Sundanian species found here, namely H. wuka, notospila, melalopha, antigrapha, & marina , only H. marina have the right rounded shape.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/gallery.php
There is unfortunately very little information on it & no image on the web.
However, it is a very small species. So if the moth is rather small it is likely to be this species.
Hmmm... Hemithea sp huh? I have a few similar looking moths that suit you description.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1175340_581730891894518_1997657984_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/8566_581730885227852_1955902748_n.jpg
Psyche
09-Sep-2013, 10:42 PM
Post 60.
No. 1 is Hemithea wuka. Widespread from India to Australia.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/geom/wuka4.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. No. 2 is Spaniocentra spicata. An example from Cameron Highland.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2499/4180872187_59d417c37b_z.jpg?zz=1
Psyche
13-Sep-2013, 07:53 PM
Post 59 No. 4.
Orgyia postica. Erebidae, Lymantriinae, Orgyiini.
Note the FW have a sort of vague circular mark. Variable. Widespread, Oriental Region to Papua.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/orgyiini/orgyiini_1_1.php
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Orgyia_postica.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
13-Sep-2013, 10:13 PM
Post 59 No 1.
Should be Toxoproctis dyssema. Erebidae,Lymantriinae, Nygmiini.
Colouration & antenna are a match. Neomalayan (Sumatra, Malaya, & Borneo).
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/nygmiini/nygmiini_7_13.php
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=160998
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
14-Sep-2013, 02:44 AM
Post 59 No. 5
Adrapsa alsusalis. Noctuidae. Herminiinae. Widespread, Oriental Region to Australia.
Correction: This species is supposedly endemic to Borneo, but there is no mistakening the ID.
The lunulate (moon-shaped) white spot, small white orbicular stigma, irregular band & long 'snout' are distinctive.
Two other species with the moon mark are Bornean endemic.
No web image.
I happened to have the equivalent of part 17 of Moths of Borneo.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
14-Sep-2013, 06:38 PM
Post 59 No. 3.
Ilyrgis echephurealis. Erebidae, Erebinae. Range Sri lanka to Malaya to Hainan & Borneo.
The mauve (red-purple) colouration with pale fasciae (bands) & angulate wings are distinctive.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_vi/miscellaneousvi_40_1.php
Correction: This is Endotricha probably E. olivacealis.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
14-Sep-2013, 10:58 PM
Post 57, No. 1.
Vestura minereusalis. Erebidae. Erebinae. Thailand to Neomalaya (Sumatra, Malaya, & Borneo.)
Recognisable by its dark colour & distinctive white spots.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_v/miscellaneousv_2_1.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
15-Sep-2013, 10:42 AM
Post 59. No. 2.
Nola pumila . Nolidae, Nolinae. Widespread. Indo-Australian Region.
The wing pattern & 2 black costal spots ID'ed it.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-18/nolinae/nolinae_14_18.php
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/nolidae/Nolidae%20Nola%20pumila.jpg
A close relative that is likely to be found here.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/78_Nolidae/01_Nolinae/3390_Manoba_brunellus/Manoba_brunellus_041011149.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
15-Sep-2013, 12:19 PM
Post 43. No 5 & 6.
These two are Spilosoma species. Erebidae, Arctiniinae.
No. 5 should be Spilosoma hypogopa. Neomalayan.
This differs from similar species by the black streak on the thorax & cream-coloured antennae.
The black marking is very variable & may be much reduced.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-6/arctiinae/arctiinae-1-9.php
No. 6. should be Spilosoma semperi. Sumatra & Malaya.
This lacks the black streak on the thorax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spilosoma_semperi
S. semperi is replaced by an allied species S. borneensis which differs in gentalia, in Borneo .
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-6/arctiinae/arctiinae-1-6.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
15-Sep-2013, 06:23 PM
Post 59, No. 6.
Poeta denotalis. Erebidae, Erebinae. SE Asia to Borneo.
Note the FW marginal area have two dark patches, an apical triangular one & another midway along the termen.
The amount of white linings is variable.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_vi/miscellaneousvi_22_2.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
15-Sep-2013, 09:03 PM
Thank you for giving IDs for moths in previous posts. :thank_you
A few more for you.
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1239486_582252158509058_1533713519_n.jpg
This moth was confirmed by Les as Lyclene sp. Les stated that there were two other similar looking species: L. pudibunda and L. pseudobunda. And that individuals could readily be IDed only through through the examination of genitalia.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1186302_582252155175725_1069261252_n.jpg
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1234051_582267805174160_416229290_n.jpg
Psyche
15-Sep-2013, 10:40 PM
Post 70 No. 2.
Lyclene ?pseudobunda.
As stated in the text of pudibunda, the difference between the pudibunda & cuneigera groups is in the way the 2 dark lines crossing the FW run.
In the cuneigera group , the 2 lines are wide apart at the costa & narrow & curved inwards at the lower dorsum .
In [I]pudibunda group (pudibunda & pseudobunda) the 2 lines expand above(to costa) & below after the constriction (Hour-glass shape).
No. 2 is obviously a member of the pudibunda group.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/nudariini/nudariini_4_18.php
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/nudariini/nudariini_4_16.php .
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/nudariini/nudariini_4_17.php
( Paragraph corrected. )
The pincer-mark on the FW is characteristic for L. pudibunda & pseudobunda.
Of the three, only L. cuneigera have been recorded here.
L. pudibunda is known from the Himalaya Sumatra,& Borneo, while L. pseudobunda is endemic to Borneo.
The case for this being L. pseudobunda are:
The wide hour-glass mark differentiate it from the narrow hour-glass in pudibunda.( However the mainland form may have a wide hour-glass.)
The submarginal spots also tends to merge into an irregular line in pudibunda.)
All other Lyclene species have quite different markings.
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. I just realised this could be an entirely new species altogether.
As stated in the text for pudibunda, both the pudibunda & cuneigera groups have the FW fringed with black ie. cilia are black.
This one have the FW cilia pale buff brown.
Painted Jezebel
16-Sep-2013, 04:03 PM
Seow, you may not be aware, but there is another species in the pudibunda group, described in 2009 by Cerny from specimens found in Peninsular Thailand called Lyclene minibunda. This does not have black cilia, at least not the specimen shown in Moths of Thailand, Volume 6.
He states "The body size is significantly smaller reaching 13 to 14mm in males and 16mm in females. The shape of the falus corresponds with Lyclene pseudobunda HOLLOWAY, whereas the shape of the valve in intermediate from L. pudibunda and L. pseudobunda." No mention of cilia.
Psyche
16-Sep-2013, 06:16 PM
Les, you are a savior! I was just wondering if there were any other 'bunda' around but funet do not mention any.
However BOLD have a series of L. minibunda collected in Thailand.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=394512
As you can see in the forms with the deeper reddish FWS the margins are variously darkened.
Two, Nos 4 & 11 with paler, somewhat more rounded FWs have the margins pale. I think these 2 are females.
The wide hour-glass mark & discrete submarginal spots would also separate these from L. pudibunda.
It is almost a certainty that this Singaporean is Lyclene minibunda.
BTW, any idea on Post 70 no.1 & 3.
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. The 'hourglass mark' can be narrow as this L. pseudobunda shows although all examples of minibunda shown have a wide hourglass.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=224666
PS2 Here is the description of the female L. pudibunda stating the FW cilia are irrorated with black. Thus both sexes have black FW margins reaffirming M.O.B.'s statement on pudibunda.
http://www.archive.org/stream/catalogueoflepid2brituoft#page/438/mode/1up
PS3. I gather from the gist of Jerome's statement in post 70 that you have already made the tentative ID of L. minibunda although he did not put the name down.
Painted Jezebel
17-Sep-2013, 08:03 AM
Les, you are a savior!
BTW, any idea on Post 70 no.1 & 3.
You are welcome! Unfortunately, I can not find any match for the other two.
Psyche
17-Sep-2013, 11:58 AM
Post 70 No. 3.
A lucky break. In looking at Geometridae ( because of its open wing stance & HW band) a likely match is found.
Heterostegane subfasciata . Geometridae, Ennominae, Cassymini.
Correction: This is actually a Crambidae/Pyralidae.
The 3 lines on the FW are correctly placed & spaced, the outer with a bent at the upper third.
HW with 2 lines forming a narrower band.
Note the dark head.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Cassymini/cassymini_7_3.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
17-Sep-2013, 06:38 PM
Thank you, Dr Seow.
Two more.
Arctornis sp
This time, there are two very faint discal spots on each forewing. And no brownish marks on any of the termens.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1240641_586164764784464_762833309_n.jpg
ID unknown.
Thought it was just another regular Amata huebneri. But it proved to be something else! It has feathery antennae instead. Also, the markings on it's body are different. Not to forget it's wings too!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1209065_586164911451116_1915420814_n.jpg
Here's an Amata huebneri for comparison
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/993379_577947738939500_575722278_n.jpg
Psyche
18-Sep-2013, 12:38 AM
Post 76.
No. 1 should be Arctornis hippia.
The moth is rather worn.
On the right FW cell is a vague dark spot but none on the left.
There is a vague dark spot outside the cell on the right & 3 on the left FW.
Their positions do not correspond between left & right.
They are artefacts (not natural) due to wear/abrasions.
If you look carefully on the left wing there is a tiny dark dot situated midway near the cross-vein of the FW cellend.
This is the true discal spot & there is a corresponding faint near the big vague spot on the right.
The wing termens are also lightly brownish. The white scales are not arranged in any pattern.
No. 2. No match at the moment. Not Amata species.
No match with Bornean Zygaenids. Perhaps a species not found there.
I think some Geometrids are similar but the antennae will not match.
TL Seow:cheers:
guldsmed
18-Sep-2013, 03:56 PM
#76-2: What about Eressa confinis? I ID'ed a similar one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/8719436999/in/set-72157633341058537) as probably that, I am not sure where I got the name from, so if I had help, I apologize for not mentioning it.
Edit: Or I should say similar oneS as I have one more: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/8719684267/in/set-72157633341058537
Psyche
18-Sep-2013, 04:46 PM
#76-2: What about Eressa confinis? I ID'ed a similar one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/8719436999/in/set-72157633341058537) as probably that, I am not sure where I got the name from, so if I had help, I apologize for not mentioning it.
Edit: Or I should say similar oneS as I have one more: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/8719684267/in/set-72157633341058537
Bingo! This is the right one.
I would have thought its antennae should be the same as Amata.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
20-Sep-2013, 10:16 PM
Post 34. No. 2.
I finally figured out what this Geometrida is.
Cusiala boarmides. Geometridae, Ennominae. Boarmiini.
This individual is much more heavily marked than the Bornean example, the postmedial (postdiscal in butterfles) dark line is more sinuous & irregular.
The HW postmedial which is macula (spot-like) & curved is shorten by perspective due to the HW folding down sides of the abdomen.
Other matching features are the two black spots on the thorax. 2 black spots on the FW costa; dark fascia on the FW apex.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_27_1.php
Post 12 No. 2.
The tentative ID of Arctonis phasmatodes is incorrect because of the prominent discal black spot.
Only a few have this but none will match. The closest A. semihyalina is fairly translucent.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/arctornithini/arctornithini_1_24.php
Note A. camurisquama & hipparia from Singapore are described with discal spots, but Bornean forms are not.
Correction: A. semihyalina is very unlikely as it is fairly translucent & not recorded in Singapore.
The text indicates that females are harder to ID.
A comparison with Post 52/1 A. camurisquama shows they are quite similar except the margins of Post 12/2 are very pale.
It is most prrobably the female (rounded FW & fat abdomen ) of A. camurisquama.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
21-Sep-2013, 03:30 PM
Post 18 No. 3.
This should be Lebadea brauni. Lassiocampidae.
The bipectinate antennae & hairy legs are typical of this family.
There is some perspective distortion as seen by the parallel white lines of the surface converging.
The lines/bands are correctly placed.
Note the head & prothorax are marked by a diamond-shaped dark patch.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/lasiocampidae/lasiocampidae_3_2.php
Correction: This is actually Darna trima Limacodidae.
TL Seow:cheers:
guldsmed
21-Sep-2013, 04:42 PM
Post 18 No. 3.
This should be Lebadea brauni. Lassiocampidae.
The bipectinate antennae & hairy legs are typical of this family.
There is some perspective distortion as seen by the parallel white lines of the surface converging.
The lines/bands are correctly placed.
Note the head & prothorax are marked by a diamond-shaped dark patch.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/lasiocampidae/lasiocampidae_3_2.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Are you sure? It does not look right to me, neither the pattern nor the wingshape...
Actually I thought maybe a limacodid (far from sure!)
Psyche
21-Sep-2013, 05:34 PM
Are you sure? It does not look right to me, neither the pattern nor the wingshape...
Actually I thought maybe a limacodid (far from sure!)
You are quite right.
I thought I have gone through the Limacodidae (& practically all the other families).
Unfortunately when I have a poor connection some of the gallery images do not appear.
The wingshape could be due to a perspective distortion which is why I mentioned it. The dark head & thorax seem right.
No excuse of course.
So here is the real deal
Darna trima ajavana. A common agricultural pest.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-1/limacodidae/limacodidae-42-10.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
22-Sep-2013, 08:10 AM
Post 12 No. 4 & 5.
Confirmed Leucoma impressa.
The orange legs & palps matched the description perfectly.
Post 12 No. 7.
A member of the Gelechioidea most likely in the family Gelechiidae itself.
The labial palps are large, the 2nd segment thick & protruding viewed from above; antennae thick.
No direct match but here are examples.
http://www.pbase.com/tmurray74/image/151618804
http://www2.nrm.se/en/svenska_fjarilar/c/chionodes_ignorantella.html
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
22-Sep-2013, 01:23 PM
Post 70. No.1.
A member of the Pyralidae family.
The large labial palps are often seen in the males.
The abdomen is often held arched upwards as seen here.
The front legs may be held up & folded while the bushy 2nd legs are extended.
These examples are from the USA.
http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/fast.php?plate=13.0&page=2&size=s&sort=h
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
23-Sep-2013, 12:47 AM
Post 12 No. 1.
A surprising find here.
This seems a perfect match for Herculia pelasgalis , synonym Hypsopygia pelagalis, Pyralidae.
The wingshape (note slightly hooked tip) matched.
The pattern matched.
The colouration also matched perfectly, forewing, hindwing & cilia.
http://yohbo.main.jp/moth_zukan/syu/08_meiga/1_aka_simameiga.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55203676@N04/9201791651/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypsopygia_pelasgalis
It is found in China, Korea, Japan, & Taiwan, & may have been introduced to Singapore.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
23-Sep-2013, 10:56 AM
Post 70, No. 3.
This cannot be Heterostegane subfasciatus, as it does not match the description well (the 3 lines should be distinct & the submarginal line should be the darkest.)
The shape & posture with the upturn abdomen is that of Crambidae/Pyralidae.
In fact it is quite similar to this if not for the dark head & FW costa.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/abruptalis.html
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
24-Sep-2013, 08:45 AM
Post 59 No. 3.
This is not Ilyrgis (Erebinae) as the position of the FW band is incorrect.
It is in fact an Endotricha spp. Pyralidae, & have the typical posture.
Likewise Post 1 No. 3 which was tentatively identified as Endotricha olivacealis(Note typical hooked tip which appeared dark.)
There are two near identical species whose distributions overlap in our area so that it is difficult to decide which species these two are.
1. Endotricha olivacealis Russia, Korea ,Japan China Taiwan extending down to Malaya & Java.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endotricha_olivacealis
Examples from Japan & ?Taiwan which would be correct.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Pyralidae/Pyralinae/Endotricha_olivacealis.html
http://gaga.biodiv.tw/9812bx/739.htm
2. Endotricha mesenterealis. Western Pacific, Australia to Malaya & India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endotricha_mesenterialis
Examples from the Pacific Island & Australia which would be correct.
http://nature.berkeley.edu/~oboyski67/Lepidoptera/images/PTO_900_74_Pyralidae.jpg
http://nature.berkeley.edu/~oboyski67/Lepidoptera/images/Endotricha_mesenterialis.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/pyra/mesent.html
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. Wikipedia's reference source for the distribution of E. olivacealis into Malaysia is taken from reference 2 which is below.
This may be incorrect as Funet does show this. E. olivacealis is largely a northern species.
http://www.biosoil.ru/fee/2003/N-123/N-123.pdf
http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/pyraloidea/pyralidae/pyralinae/endotricha/index.html
If this is incorrect, then at least post 59 no.3 is E.mesenterealis.
Others in the region.
E. trichophoralis TL Singapore No. 14
http://www.archive.org/stream/bulletinofbritis13entoond#page/n600/mode/1up
E. semirubrica No. 109
http://www.archive.org/stream/bulletinofbritis13entoond#page/n613/mode/1up
E. ruminalis No. 27
http://www.archive.org/stream/bulletinofbritis13entoond#page/n602/mode/1up
Chequered Lancer
24-Sep-2013, 08:30 PM
Sorry for the rude interruption. I have to clear off some shots before there's too many.
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Psyche
24-Sep-2013, 11:21 PM
Post 89.
No. 1 Flammona quadrifasciata. Noctuiidae. A good match , no pix.
No. 5 Dysaethria probably D. lilacina . Uraniidae . Several similar species. Females have the HW black spots flattened.
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8190/8111225371_d20c50af93.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pssivaprasad/4757266447/
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
25-Sep-2013, 04:16 PM
Post 89. No. 7
Godonela translineata. Geometridae. Ennomiinae.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Macariini/macariini_6_9.php
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1/7121512043/in/set-72157611945417047
As stated in the text , this species is indistinguishable from G. ermesaria which is northern, from India to south China.
http://www.ccs-hk.org/DM/butterfly/Geometrid/Godonela-emersaria.html
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
25-Sep-2013, 04:49 PM
Post 89. No. 6.
Drapetodes magnifica. Drepanidae, Drepaninae.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/drepaninae/drepaninae_21_4.php
A 2nd species recorded from Singapore but not found in Borneo. D. mitaria.
http://www.geocities.ws/drepanidae/104-39.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
guldsmed
25-Sep-2013, 05:22 PM
89 - 7 looks like Chiasmia sp. to me?
Psyche
25-Sep-2013, 08:41 PM
Post 89. No. 3.
Herpetogramma spp. Pyralidae.
As you can see from the two below , wingshape, every lines & spots matched correctly, including the two on the abdomen.
From USA.
http://bugguide.net/node/view/777788/bgimage
From Reunion , Indian Ocean.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pyralidae-Herpetogramma_couteyeni-26mm.jpg
ID Correction : Post 57. No. 1. Pyralidae/Crambidae.
Th markings don't quite matched Vestura minereusalis.
The large eyes, head, palps, & strong antennae are typical Pyralid/Crambid. Likewise wingshape & markings.
(I guess if it looks like a Crambid/Pyralid, it almost always is.)
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
26-Sep-2013, 12:54 AM
89 - 7 looks like Chiasmia sp. to me?
You are right. There is a name change. It is now Chiasmia translineata.
Godonela is treated as a junior synonym of Chiasmia.
TL Seow:cheers:
guldsmed
26-Sep-2013, 03:30 PM
Thx for the clarification Seow :-)
Psyche
26-Sep-2013, 11:49 PM
Post 89. No. 4.
Rhectothyris gratiosalis. Crambidae. Pyraustinae/Spilomelinae. Range India, China to Borneo.
The position of the yellow lines & the hyaline spots matched coorectly the example from Taiwan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13940097@N04/4583732716
A darker example from Vietnam.
http://richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Nature/Moths/IschnurgesGratiosalis04.jpg
There are only 2 species in the genus, the 2nd one R. rosea is quite different. Range Assam to Australia.
http://www1.ala.org.au/gallery2/v/Crambidae/Pyraustinae/Rhectothyrisrosea/
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
27-Sep-2013, 07:38 AM
Post 1 No. 4 & 5.
These two are not moths. They look like true bugs, Hemiptera/Homoptera.
The snout is a thin central tube unlike the twin labial palps of moths.
The head & antennae & the long legs all do not match.
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. I may yet be wrong, but I haven't come across anything among the Pyraloids that suggest it is close to these two.
PS2 .By zooming in on the pix, the central 'palps' is actually the extended proboscis, so these two are really moths after all.
Strangely I can find nothing close to resembling them.
Psyche
27-Sep-2013, 07:57 AM
Post 57 No. 1.
This is correctly Bertula alpheusalis. Erebidae, Herminiinae. (Note Noctuidae is now more restricted.)Himalaya to Sundaland.
(I have MoB part 17 for the ID.)
The front end may look like Pyralid/Crambid but the wings are more ample & the band is not seen in the Pyraloids.
A very similar species is Bertula abjudicalis from Sri Lanka/India.
The margins of the band is similarly double-lined. The band is however broadly extended in the costal half in abjudicalis.
The 2 marks (whitish in alpheusalis ) are similarly placed, one at the front margin & the larger one at the angle of the back margin.
http://lepidoptera.pro/taxonomy/68394
JPmoth has unfortunately captioned as Bertula alpheusalis an image taken in Sabah.
This in no way resembles the image of B alpheusalis in MoB.
It is very close to the image of B. lobativalva, a species also recorded in Singapore.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/04_HERMINIINAE/01_Bertula/Bertula%20alpheusalis/Bertula%20alpheusalis.htm
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
27-Sep-2013, 08:17 AM
Post 89. No. 2.
Tentative ID. Raphiscopa undulata , Erebidae, Herminiinae . Range Sundaland (Sumatra, Malaya & Borneo.)
The undulating margin of the FW band & the 3 white dots matched the image of Raphiscopa serrata, whose image in MoB is rather dark.
However, as stated in the text R. serrata is similar to R. undulata & differs in the postmedial (the dark grey band) having a more definite dark component basally and the pale submarginal (line or band ) being more clearly defined.
R. serrata is a Bornean endemic.
The image of R. undulata in MoB is too worn & old for proper comparison.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
28-Sep-2013, 12:14 AM
Post 1 No. 4 & 5.
As I have stated in the postscript of an earlier post these two really are moths ater all.
These are Geometrid moths belonging to the Subfamily Larentiinae.
They often rest with the forewings covering the hindwings.
Examples below of the genera Episteira & Sauris.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55203676@N04/9211165879/in/photostream/
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2808/9429826315_3cb7e25fc4.jpg
They are rather small. Unfortunately MoB's images are so small & low-res that it is daunting to figure out the IDs.
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
28-Sep-2013, 07:15 PM
Are the next two shots two separate species, or is it just sexual dimorphism?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420393_529110900489851_1359049023_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/21415_558908750843399_1091921795_n.jpg
Post 1 No. 4 & 5. No. 4 is rather worn - note loss of cilia.
Sauris interruptata, Geometridae, Larentiinae. Range India to Papua.
Here is one taken in Taiwan. Note all the markings & their positions matched. Intensity & colour tone will always varies.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bettaman/3806602649/
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/trichopterygini/trichopterygini_10_5.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
28-Sep-2013, 07:30 PM
Seen a few similar individuals, but never managed to shoot them... Here's one found in an urbanized area.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554881_562096640524610_850116140_n.jpg
Post 10. No. 1.
Tentative ID Episteira nigrifrons. Geometridae, Larentiinae. Range Indo-Australian Region.
Here is a pic from nothern Thailand. Tentative ? Sauris spp. Every mark & wavy lins matched so that it is likely the same species.
http://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=217
However, there is no proper match from MoB for this, E. nigrifrons is the closest.
Note there are two 'blank' areas on the FW, at the apex & next to it subapical/costal.
Also at the tornus is a whitish patch demarcated with black.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/trichopterygini/trichopterygini_9_2.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Painted Jezebel
28-Sep-2013, 09:57 PM
Jerome, this thread is getting very complicated and confused. May I humbly suggest that you start a different thread for each month, it will be easier to follow.
Psyche
29-Sep-2013, 10:04 AM
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1234051_582267805174160_416229290_n.jpg
Post 70. No. 3
Tentative ID. Herpetogramma licarsisalis . Crambidae. Spilomelinae. Old World Tropics , vagrant to UK.
From HK.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/2500548205/in/set-72157616809366369
From UK.
http://www.hantsmoths.org.uk/species/1406a.php
TL Seow:cheers:
Psyche
01-Oct-2013, 09:41 AM
Post 105 (image of Post 70 no. 3)
Herpetogramma spp. invariably have the outer FW line strongly sinuous or undulate, sometimes almost forming a loop.
Paranacoleia lophophoralis is a much better match. Range east Asia, recorded from Singapore.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/0609Tsushima/Pylaridae/Paranacoleia%20lophophoralis_060924698.jpg
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/63_Crambidae/6109_Pyraustinae/610908601_Paranacoleia_lophophoralis_1713/Paranacoleia_lophophoralis_041009849.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Chequered Lancer
03-Oct-2013, 08:46 PM
Thank you, Psyche, Painted Jezebel, and guldsmed, for assisting me in the IDs. I shall start another thread then. :thank_you
Psyche
05-Oct-2013, 05:37 PM
Thank you, Les and Dr Seow for thoroughly going through their IDs. :thank_you
More moth
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1150964_577944485606492_1292863923_n.jpg
Post 43 No. 2. Tentative ID. Perixera gaeta , Geometridae. Sterrhinae. Cosymbiini. Range Sundaland, Sulawesi.
This was in an earlier post only tentatively thought to be Erythrolophus fascicorpus.
Although the HW has a black discal ring spot, the abdomen is not black-banded as in Erythrolophus.
However, among the Perixera is a good match.
It matches the image of P. argyromma (image large enough to compare accurately) quite well , all the black dots on the FW as well as the medial dark band.
The HW discal spot is white rimmed with black & may be almost black as stated in the text of argyromma.
P. argyromma belongs to a suite of 3 almost identical species.
P. argyromma is montane.
P. argyrommoides is a Bornean endemic.
This leaves P. gaeta .
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/cosymbiini/cosymbiini_6_1.php
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/cosymbiini/cosymbiini_6_2.php
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/cosymbiini/cosymbiini_6_3.php
TL Seow:cheers:
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