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Chequered Lancer
03-Oct-2013, 09:03 PM
As suggested by Painted Jezebel, I've started a new thread for more moths that pend IDs

Thanks in advance. :thank_you

First post.

Starting with an old shot.

#1
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1375921_591074630960144_1428208314_n.jpg

#2
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1377240_591210770946530_1426853969_n.jpg

#3
Rhimphaliodes sp (?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1069426_591210780946529_1041151636_n.jpg

#4
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1239964_591210790946528_510003633_n.jpg

#5
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1374112_591211107613163_744933449_n.jpg

#6
ID unknown
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1381174_594229933977947_532040560_n.jpg

Painted Jezebel
03-Oct-2013, 09:36 PM
The Rhimphaliodes is R. magrostigma (Crambidae), at least that is what I have labelled my photos of that species.

Psyche
04-Oct-2013, 01:29 AM
Post 1 No. 1.

Pomasia species. Geometridae. Larentinae. Eupitheciini.
Note the FW apices are very rounded. The FW basal area & the HW have a paler look.
It looks similar to this, but there are several similar species.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/eupitheciini/eupitheciini_5_3.php

An example of Pomasia salutaris to show the similar patterns.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/85_GEOMETROIDEA/04_GEOMETRIDAE/09_Larentiinae/15_Pomasia/Pomasia%20salutaris/Pomasia%20salutaris_0704182081.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

guldsmed
04-Oct-2013, 03:16 AM
I think last one is Talanga sexpunctalis or at least I have earlier ID'ed very similar one as that: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/8787918916/in/set-72157633341300261

Painted Jezebel
04-Oct-2013, 08:10 AM
Yes. I knew I had seen it before, but could not find the file:embrass:! Eoopyhla species are quite similar, and I have deleted my earlier comment.

Psyche
04-Oct-2013, 07:50 PM
I think last one is Talanga sexpunctalis or at least I have earlier ID'ed very similar one as that: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/8787918916/in/set-72157633341300261

It is Talanga sexpunctalis alright. Crambidae. Spilomelinae.
From HK.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/8658267560/in/set-72157616809366369

Likewise. No. 3 is also correctly Rhimphaliodes macrostigma. Crambidae. Spilomelinae.
From Australia.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/macrostigma.html

Both species are wide-ranging from Asiatic mainland to Australia.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
04-Oct-2013, 09:13 PM
Post 1 No. 2.

Derambila species, tentative ID Derambila lumenaria. Geometridae. Desmobathrinae, Desmobathrini. India to Sundaland.
It is probably this one shot in Indonesia .Note similar postmedials (iecpostdiscal spots in butterflies.)
http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/17460239
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/desmobathrini/desmobathrini_7_9.php

Two other with the about the same range, D. saponaria & fragilis have paler markings.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bettaman/6535787587/in/set-72157623093719007

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
04-Oct-2013, 09:36 PM
Jerome, can you number your individual photos (post #, photo #). It does help enormously.

Post #1, photo #2, I agree with the Genus, but there are a number of similar species, so I would not want to go further. I have a number similar photos, that may be the same species, but also be different ones, I do not know how variable they can be! I gave up on Geometridae a long, long time ago.

Psyche
06-Oct-2013, 07:39 PM
No. 1 is most likely to be Pomasia reticulata .Geometridae. Larentinae. Eupitheciini. Mergui to Malaya & Borneo.

The Pomasia are little collected. Most species consist of a few specimens.
By eliminating the strictly montane , Bornean endemic & obvioiusly different forms the remainder are P. reticulata, luteata ,& gelastis .

P. reticulata is the most widely collected & is thought to be a largely coastal species.

http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/eupitheciini/eupitheciini_5_4.php

http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=248247


TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
07-Oct-2013, 09:19 AM
Post 1 No. 4.

Most likely Perixera spp. Geomeridae. Sterrhinae, Cosymbiini.

It does not match correctly any of the description or image of Perixera in MoB, perhaps an extra-Borneo spp. like P. obrinaria.
It looks like the one below except for the heavy fasciation (banding/striping).
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/cosymbiini/cosymbiini_6_28.php

No match with other related genera, eg. Cyclophora, Mesotrophe, & Scopula.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
08-Oct-2013, 08:52 PM
Post 1 No. 5 (Corrected)

Pangrapta cf perturbans . Erebidae, Pangraptinae. Range ?

(cf , Latin for conferre, ie. to compare, meaning it is close to this spp. & could possibly be it.)

There is little resources to check for Pangrapta on the net.

http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/0609Tsushima/Tsushimaframepage.htm

http://www.jpmoth.org/Noctuidae/Catocalinae/Pangrapta_perturbans.html

TL Seow:cheers:

guldsmed
09-Oct-2013, 01:23 AM
I think you mean #5, right?


Post 1 No. 6.

Pangrapta cf perturbans . Erebidae, Pangraptinae. Range ?

(cf , Latin for conferre, ie. to compare, meaning it is close to this spp. & could possibly be it.)

There is little resources to check for Pangrapta on the net.

http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/0609Tsushima/Tsushimaframepage.htm

http://www.jpmoth.org/Noctuidae/Catocalinae/Pangrapta_perturbans.html

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
09-Oct-2013, 04:06 PM
I think you mean #5, right?

Quite right. It should be No. 5.

No. 6 is of course the Talanga.

TL Seow:cheers:

Chequered Lancer
10-Oct-2013, 07:36 PM
More moths.

#1
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1382156_596509130416694_1934057250_n.jpg

#2
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377167_596509127083361_1583379362_n.jpg

#3
Plume moth?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1391521_596509243750016_50284464_n.jpg

#4
Reminds me of an Adrapsa sp.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1381325_596509460416661_1575067998_n.jpg

#5
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1377404_596509370416670_511876118_n.jpg

#6
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1384092_596509673749973_221380560_n.jpg

Psyche
11-Oct-2013, 01:05 AM
Post 14. No 4.

Adrapsa ereboides. Erebidae , Herminiinae . Range Neomalaya (Sumatra, Malaya, Borneo.)

It is quite difficult to match up pix & images of museum specimens.
This one is distinctive because of it rather straight dark outer margin of the HW band.
MoB shows ain image in which the FW discal spot is rather poor.
This matches specimen 1 below.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=281950

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
11-Oct-2013, 09:10 AM
Post 14 No. 1.

Geometridae, Larentiinae, Eupitheciini.
Genus unknown.

Quite similar to this but lack the distinctive white spots.
Cannot be another sp. as there appeared to only one species here, A. antenuata.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/4211517161/in/set-72157614086760711

Possibly this.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/eupitheciini/eupitheciini_22_4.php

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
11-Oct-2013, 10:26 AM
Post #14, Nos. 5 & 6 - Mocis undata (Erebidae, Catocalinae), a common and very variable species.

Psyche
11-Oct-2013, 10:56 AM
Post #14, Nos. 5 & 6 - Mocis undata (Erebidae, Catocalinae), a common and very variable species.

I remembered seeing pix of these but couldn't place it.
Amazingly the genus is unknown in Borneo & so out of MoB.

TL Seow :Cheers.

Painted Jezebel
11-Oct-2013, 11:17 AM
Volume 15, Tribe Ophiusini. 2 species recorded from Borneo.

Psyche
11-Oct-2013, 11:55 AM
Volume 15, Tribe Ophiusini. 2 species recorded from Borneo.

You are quite right.
I have the book on Catocalinae & still miss the image of it.

TL Seow : Cheers.

guldsmed
11-Oct-2013, 01:13 PM
How about Chloroclystis/Pasiphila sp. for #14-1?

Psyche
11-Oct-2013, 09:49 PM
How about Chloroclystis/Pasiphila sp. for #14-1?

No match for these two genera in Moths of Borneo.
The FW markings look quite different & the HWs are largely inmarked.

Agreed some examples on the web look similar if correctly depicted.
However HW shape & band differ & ground pattern finely striated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroclystis

Pasiphila.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1023/5179694773_96f5f15a56_m.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
12-Oct-2013, 12:23 PM
In checking the Chloroclystis species I think some of the images on the web are incoorect.
eg the one below does not match that in MoB. Different pattern & FW should be 2x the size of the HW.
http://www.pbase.com/andrew57/image/110530635
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/eupitheciini/eupitheciini_11_3.php

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
12-Oct-2013, 07:17 PM
Post 14 No. 2.

No match for this. The distinctive feature is the thick short antenna (often 1/2 FW length or less) with a sharp angle to the stout base.
This match many members of subfamily Olethreutinae, Family Tortricidae.
Examples of Olethreutinines showing the unusual antennae.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/5747876244_7cce60fb06.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/tort/koenigiana4.jpg
http://www.commanster.eu/commanster/Insects/Moths/SpMoths/Piniphila.bifasciana.jpg


Post 14 No. 3.

About 20+ species of Pterophorids are recorded from Singapore but no information available.
The general appearance & white colour suggest it is a Pterophorus species.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
13-Oct-2013, 01:52 PM
#2
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377167_596509127083361_1583379362_n.jpg



Post 14. No. 2.
Tentative ID. Grapholita species.

Bear in mind with a strictly topdown shot the lower part of the FW (ie the costal 1/3 & apex) is not visible.
Below is a pic. of Grapholita funebrana the Plum Fruit Moth.
The similar features are.
1. The large eyes & short thick antennae.
2. The white-banded legs.
3. The rugose (wrinkly) ground pattern.
4. The white scale-like markings in the middle of the FW.
5. The distal part is whitish. The defining white band is poorly marked out however.
http://www.hmbg.org/uploads/images/1247-Grapholita-funebrana(Plum-Fruit-Moth)4.jpg
A similar spp. the Oriental Fruit Moth G. molesta. showing rugose ground & white scale-like markings.
http://ukmoths.org.uk/images/1248G_molestaAM.jpg

Both G. funebrana & molesta are Palaeartic in distribution.

There are more than 30 spp. of Grapholita species.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
18-Oct-2013, 01:15 PM
More moths.

#3
Plume moth?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1391521_596509243750016_50284464_n.jpg



Pterophorus lacteipennis. Pterophoridae Widespread. India to Papua.
( Pterophorus Gk feather/(wing)-bearer; lacteipennis L milk-white feather/(wing) )

Only genus Pterophorus here have white body & wings.
This species is also distinctive for its cross-band & black dots.
This specimen from the Papua Insect foundation have its abdomen removed for genitalia confirmation.
Note all the dots & the band matched correctly in position.
http://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Pterophoridae/Pterophorus/Pterophorus%20lacteipennis.jpg

This set specimen from Australia have the band less obvious but the dots are correct.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhobern/2432865258/in/photostream/

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
20-Oct-2013, 09:47 PM
More moths.

#1
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1382156_596509130416694_1934057250_n.jpg


Tentative ID. Gymnoscelis pseudotibialis. Geometridae. Larentiinae. Eupitheciini.

The wing pattern matches & of course the size.
I have ignored this previously because it is listed as sp. n. (species new) thinking a new species would be endemic to Borneo.
However, it is redescribed from old materials & is recorded from both Malaya Singapore.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/eupitheciini/eupitheciini_22_4.php

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. An example of a Gymnoscelis showing the similar wing pattern.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/4210546834/in/set-72157623704591635/