Doi Suthep-Pui & Mae Jo, Chiang Mai, Thailand

[Painted Jezebel]

I arrived in Chiang Mai e few days in advance of the main party, and took the time to visit Doi Suthep and Mae Jo.

Doi Suthep-Pui: Rather disappointing in early October!
LD1 - Aeromachus dubius impha - Forest Scrub Hopper
LD2 - Pelopidas conjunctus conjunctus - Conjoined Swift?
LD3 - Dodona egeon egeon - Orange Punch
LD4 - Abisara sp. (can not make my mind up about this one.)

[Painted Jezebel]

Mae Jo" Last time, this area proved amazingly productive, particularly for Theclini. Unfortunately, the area around the pond has been cut down and nothing was there. However, I was shown to paths nearby which were known for some species not generally found elsewhere in Thailand.

LD5 - Arnetta atkinsoni - Atkinson's Bob (w.s.f - 2nd photo is a female)
LD6 - Ampittia maroides - Banded Bush Hopper (please note that Pisuth has the males of the 2 Ampittia species the wrong way round!)
LD7 - Ypthima sp. I believe I was told it was Ypthima savara savara (Pallid Fivering) but I forgot to make a note of it!
LD8 - Mycalesis annamatica annamatica (Annam Bushbrown)
LD9 - Abisara abnormis (Abnormal Judy) - or so I was told!

[Painted Jezebel]

Oops, I missed one from Doi Suthep;

LD11 - Mycalesis francisca sanatana (Lilicine Bushbrown) ?

[Psyche]

LD 2.
Not sure what. Underside HW no spot in the correct position. FW 2 cellspots & space 1b; sharp.
?Baoris female.
Correction: female Polytremis lubricans.

LD 4. Abisara echerius paionea.
As saturata but FW inner band broad.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/AbisaraEcherius/AbisaraEcherius_KrushnameghKunte_an354.jpg

LD 7.
Y. savara looks correct.

LD 9.
A. abnormis is correct.
http://www.biogang.net/upload_img/biodiversity/biodiversity-127283-6.jpg

LD 11.
Probably right.

TL Seow :Cheers.
PS. LD2 The upperside is that of a female P. lubricans though the underside appeared too dark & the FWs too sharp.

[Psyche]

LD2 .
I can't see the wingshape as distorted, & the underside is quite dark.Two cellspots.

It should be Caltoris tenuis (tenuis = thin, slender.)

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Angiud]

Just a few from Doi Suthep, October 2014:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3940/15737645472_a3a51e8bb3_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pYFxH3)
The Yellow Coster ♀ - Acraea issoria sordice (https://flic.kr/p/pYFxH3)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3953/15111793613_f118b0ccbf_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2nTKK)
The Green Commodore - Sumalia daraxa daraxa (https://flic.kr/p/p2nTKK)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7515/15728459095_9b8c76761d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pXSsVe)
The Constable - Dichorragia nesimachus nesimachus (https://flic.kr/p/pXSsVe)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/15719551571_7228927522_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pX5P2e)
The Water Snow Flat - Tagiades litigiosa litigiosa (https://flic.kr/p/pX5P2e)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3933/15483977529_796ee98295_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pAgr4P)
The Dark Judy ♂ - Abisara fylla fylla (https://flic.kr/p/pAgr4P)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3943/15480185617_90b3d39579_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pzVZS2)
Unidentified Skipper (https://flic.kr/p/pzVZS2)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3943/15479505229_53fd9fbe90_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pzSvBc)
Unidentified Flash (https://flic.kr/p/pzSvBc)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7565/15050541883_16a80504d7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oVXXKr)
The Lilacine Bushbrown - Mycalesis francisca sanatana (https://flic.kr/p/oVXXKr)

[Psyche]

Post 6.

The skipper is a good match for Halpe filda which is new to Thailand.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/787/Halpe-filda

TL Seow :Cheers.
PS. The Rapala has to be a female R. suffusa.

[Peacock Royal]

Post 6.

The skipper is a good match for Halpe filda which is new to Thailand.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/787/Halpe-filda

:jumjoy::redbounce:gbounce:

[Psyche]

Federick, one of your Halpe skipper ( I can't find it ) also appeared to be this species.

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Painted Jezebel]

Seow, I think you will find it in the Maekampong waterfall thread. However, I also have it, and show it below for easier checking.

[Silverstreak]

I think all of us shot it at the waterfall at Maekampong !! :shoot1: :redbounce:cheergal:


Will post in Butterflies of Thailand for Khun Prasobsuk Sukkit's opinion.


Halpe filda (Elwes's Ace)


Discription in " Butterflies of India " Annotated Checklist by Paul Van Gasse .


Halpe filda (Elwes‟s Ace)

H.f.filda: E Nepal, Sikkim. NR – Sikkim (probably in different localities from molta)
[Described by Evans in 1949]


#1
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/SunnyChir/Halpe-filda-Elwess-AceSunny-Chir-1DX-2014_10_15--1020142343_zpsf1673e5b.png (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/SunnyChir/media/Halpe-filda-Elwess-AceSunny-Chir-1DX-2014_10_15--1020142343_zpsf1673e5b.png.html)


#2
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/SunnyChir/Halpe-filda-Elwess-AceSunny-Chir-1DX-2014_10_15--1020142333_zpsffcae3c7.png (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/SunnyChir/media/Halpe-filda-Elwess-AceSunny-Chir-1DX-2014_10_15--1020142333_zpsffcae3c7.png.html)


#3
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/SunnyChir/Halpe-filda-Elwess-AceSunny-Chir-1DX-2014_10_15--1020142326_zpsba833505.png (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/SunnyChir/media/Halpe-filda-Elwess-AceSunny-Chir-1DX-2014_10_15--1020142326_zpsba833505.png.html)

[Peacock Royal]

Oh yes, at Maekampong Waterfall.
I posted it in another thread :
http://www.butterflycircle.com/showthread.php?14719-Maekampong-Waterfall-Area-Northern-Thailand&p=127725#post127725

[Angiud]

Mae Kampong is not close to Doi Suthep ;)

[Silverstreak]

From Facebook from Saito Motoki san.



Saito Motoki (https://www.facebook.com/saito.motoki?fref=ufi) To me, it seems Halpe homolea Hewitson, 1868. This group is very difficult. Need to check the genitalia for further confirmation.
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Sunny Chir (https://www.facebook.com/sunny.chir.1?fref=ufi) Thank You Saito Motoki (https://www.facebook.com/saito.motoki) san for the input, I could be wrong, Halpe homolea Hewitson 1868 is not in Thailand's list too !

This warrant further investigation !

[Psyche]

I did some checking & it does look good for Halpe filda.

Great job getting the upperside, Sunny.
Salient points.

1. FW cell with no spots .
2. Cilia strongly chequered.
3. HW discal band not particularly well-defined.

There are hardly any species that will match all 3 criteria especially 1 & 2.

Halpe arcuata :FW no cellspot ;cilia not chequered. There are good images.
http://nhuodd.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/e0b888e0b8b8e0b894e0b980e0b8abe0b8a5e0b8b5e0b988e0 b8a2e0b8a1e0b88be0b989e0b8ade0b8991.jpg?w=980
http://old.hkls.org/fieldtr/ChiangMai06/_W3F9480%20copy.jpg

Halpe handa ( initially as H. homolea handa )
No cell spot; cilia chequered; HW underside without a band, but elliptical dark spots.
http://www.insect-fans.com/bbs/data/attachment/forum/ipb/post-2-1105257629.jpg

Halpe homolea. Indian Ace , not uncommon in India.
FW with a cellspot.; cilia chequered. HW band yellow or yellowish-white clearly -defined outer margin (C&P3)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halpe_homolea
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3167/2280952501_e46ac41233.jpg
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/?level=picture&id=1167
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drsaji/3986846814/

This leaves Halpe filda (formerly H. homolea filda.)


TL Seow :Cheers.

[Silverstreak]

From Butterflies of Thailand FacebookGroup

A reply from Khun Prasobsuk Sukkit and Yutaka Inayoshi san



Prasobsuk Sukkit (https://www.facebook.com/prasobsuk.sukkit?fref=ufi) First of all Genus Halpe needs specimens and checking Genitalia. From what I learn by specialist.



Because study this photo to 5 specimens of the same species with Mr.Inayoshi from various places in Thailand it is hard to say it is H.filda. He said a specimen is needed.
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Sunny Chir (https://www.facebook.com/sunny.chir.1?fref=ufi) Thanks Ting and Inayoshi san ! We leave it at your good hands !
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[Silverstreak]

From Butterflies of Singapore FB Group



Peter Smetacek: I would agree with Saito Motoki, since filda has 3 apical spots on the forewing, while yours has 2. Perhaps this is a new species, call it paradoxus.....
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Sunny Chir : Thanks for the input Peter Smetacek, now poor farmers like us are lost in the padi field ! Hahaha
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Les Day : I also agree with Saito Motoki, this genus needs specimens to examine properly.


Do not get too excited!
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Sunny Chir : We have done our part in highligting it , let's wait for for Khun Prasobsuk Sukkit and Yutaka Inayoshi san to do the final analysis and study !
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Sunny Chir: We would like to thank all the experts in unselfishly shared with us their expertise and knowledge !
Thank you Dr. Seow , Saito Motoki san, Khun Prasobsuk Sukkit, Yutaka Inayoshi san , Peter Smetacek and Les Day !! :)


Cheeers !
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[Silverstreak]

Saito Motoki (https://www.facebook.com/saito.motoki?fref=ufi) Thank you for precious information. Now Halpe filda is treated as a distinct species. Do you know any paper on this subject?
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Sunny Chir (https://www.facebook.com/sunny.chir.1?fref=ufi) We would like to thank all the experts in unselfishly shared with us their expertise and knowledge !

Thank you Dr. Seow , Saito Motoki (https://www.facebook.com/saito.motoki)i san, Khun Prasobsuk Sukkit (https://www.facebook.com/prasobsuk.sukkit) Yutaka Inayoshi san , Peter Smetacek (https://www.facebook.com/peter.smetacek.5) and Les Day (https://www.facebook.com/les.day.127648) !!.


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