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ButterflyWitch
16-Aug-2020, 11:04 PM
Good evening Dr. Seow Sir, I hope you are healthy & good.....
All these individuals are photographed in Tripura, Northeast India...
Sir,please help me confirm identification of these following species...
Thank you in advance...
1. Rapala tara?
26510
2. Rapala scintilla?
26511
3. Rapala sp.?
26512
26513
4. Rapala sp.?
26514
5. Rapala sp.?
26515
6. Heliophorus indicus?
26516
26517
7. Tajuria jehana?
26518
26519
8. Dacalana penicilligera or cotys??
26520
9. Jamides elpis?
26521
26522
10. Jamides caerulea?
26523
11. Lestranicus transpectus?
26524
12.
26525
26526
13.
26527
26528
Nawab
17-Aug-2020, 09:29 PM
2. Rapala manea
3. R. damona female?
12. Acytolepis puspa
13. Lestranicus transpectus
Psyche
17-Aug-2020, 11:05 PM
The Rapala species in India are more confusingly variable than in SE Asia.
Species in which the HW postdiscal band is domed or arched in space 1b & postdiscal band is narrow ,almost linear.
They include R. dieneces, suffusa ,damona & tara.
R. dieneces Male UpH with costal area & cell black.
Underside generally lighter ochreous to brownish. FW band mostly straight/slightly curved ;HW orange crown defined by a dark line but often not distinct nor confined to space 2 ( ie. spreadout beyond space 2).
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/928/Rapala-dieneces
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Nq8JtCdenzg/T6ex5MpgMGI/AAAAAAAAFzk/7O9lOYPyrcg/s1600/DSC0150+Scarlet+Flash.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NY0ysDNalvE/XE2XhFgaZwI/AAAAAAAAexw/SwFxkPDWSxcLni87HMLhvxQctXxzaSYNgCLcBGAs/s1600/DSC_7326.JPG
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fRiMJFVI6eY/V_hXSAz3P2I/AAAAAAAAaUs/x8TRPjCof0Q2cUZG4hbp6gSEVlzxQ6xTACK4B/s400/IMG_0108.JPG
R. suffusa FW upperside red patch with diffuse border & suffused brown;'
Underside more yellow ; FW postdiscal band always curved in ;HW orange crown absent, being yellow.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/3142/Rapala-suffusa
https://live.staticflickr.com/5524/31298635421_4fac71f954_b.jpg
Singapore males.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7376/9857490685_e0452d3eda_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4188/34357928916_217742bda1_c.jpg
Singapore females.
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/suffused-flash.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2/156641755.sRe8z1wO.jpg
R. damona ;UpH red covers the costal area .
Underside more orange brown ;FW band always curved in;' HW orange defined by black line
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/3154/Rapala-damona
Singapore male.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4600/27485579769_010662737f_c.jpg
Probable female Singapore.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-66Xxi-yYPLc/Ux_ApPzQX9I/AAAAAAAALxM/g4QCADCzDrM/s1600/SuffusedFlash-SunnyC.png
R. tara Underside strongly yellow ; UnH postdiscal band completely dislocated in space 2, 3, 4, & 5.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/2913/Rapala-tara
1 & 3 are female Rapala suffusa.
4 is likely female Rapala dieneces.
Psyche
17-Aug-2020, 11:36 PM
Species in which the UnH postdiscal band is straight & at a a slanted position.
The orange crown is demarcated by a black line; the postdiscal band is broader.
Rapala iarbus.Upperside red/orange.
Underside paler grey, may be silvery grey ;cilia orange in fresh specimen.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/555/Rapala-iarbus
Rapala manea ]Upperside blueshot on both wings; wings broader.
Underside browner ;cilia brown. UnH band & cellend bar typically well-separated.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/634/Rapala-manea
Rapala scintilla; Upperside blue shot on the HW.
Underside brownish-grey with a slight greenish tinge.
UnF band often angled at around vein 4 or 5. HW band & cellend bar close (male), almost touching.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/84070001.html
Male Thailand.
https://wingscales.com/content/record/3142-1-1ffc5.jpg
R. varuna.
Underside bands broad & doublesided white-edged, touching cellend bar on HW ;tornal black spot typically round.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/649/Rapala-varuna
2. looks closer to R. manea.
5 should be R. iarbus.
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 12:11 AM
6. should be correct as Heliophorus indicus.
Verifiable H indicus male have no red marks on FW & HW with short series of marginal lunules.
UnH white shadings in space 3,4 & 5.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2019/187_43374-812-5d5840f0621a7-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2019/187_43373-555-5d5840d3d742a-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2020/538_53356-62-5e941d5fb02b1-3.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2020/538_53356-62-5e941d5fb02b1-2.jpg
Verifiable H. epicles male often have orange on FW & typically longer series of marginal red.
UnH white shading in space 3,4 & 5 less.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/HeliophorusEpicles/01HeliophorusEpicles_KrushnameghKunte_ah962.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/HeliophorusEpicles/02HeliophorusEpicles_KrushnameghKunte_ah963.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/224_2716-265-549d20b923e09-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/224_2717-995-549d21d00d0d2-1.jpg
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 12:38 AM
7 Pratapa deva.
The upperside have the HW blue greenish & different from the FW. HW black spot more rounded.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/711/Pratapa-deva
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 01:18 AM
9 Dacalana penicilligera
The white band in D. cotys is always wide.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83230001.html
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dacalana_cotys#/media/File:CotysMFUpUn_486_AC1.jpg
The white band in D. penicilligera is always narrown.
On the FW the white band widens slightly at the costa.
See field shot at bottom of link.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83210001.html
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 01:32 AM
9 & 10.
Both are Jamides elpis.
The upperside light blue immediately IDed it as J. elpis.
J. alecto has broad white striae on the FW.& black spots on UpH.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Jamides_alecto#/media/File:AlectoAlectoMFUpUnAC1.jpg
J. elpis typically have narrow markins & upperside completely pale blue.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2014/97_591-45-5437f97cf3608-2.jpg
J. caeruleus have moerate shiny blue upperside & underside dark shaded.
Thelast stria pn the FW postdiscal band hangs free.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q2_kLPWxVes/UzKCVqUOrzI/AAAAAAAANpc/cLxpR1n3olc/s1600/DSC_0726.JPG
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyCsM/SlDCu-eVzRI/AAAAAAAADsg/1iW4-aFAHLM/s1600-h/JC_adult_male_02_c.jpg
female.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyCsM/SlDE0RTd6_I/AAAAAAAADs4/O3j665LJ4DU/s1600-h/JC_adult_female_01_c.jpg
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 01:40 AM
11 & 13.
Lestranicus transpectus.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/1016/Lestranicus-transpectus
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 01:48 AM
12. Acytolepis puspa.
A tiny spot at the base of HW space 7 IDed Acytolepis.
The upperside is that of A. puspa.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/549/Acytolepis-puspa
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/890/Acytolepis-lilacea
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80840001.html
TL Seow: Cheers.
Psyche
18-Aug-2020, 09:44 PM
2 is probably correct as Rapala scintilla, but hard to be sure.
The male UpH is blue shot in a side light & that may not be visible even in a field shot.
The underside is strongly grey. The bands broad & close to the cellend bar in the male especially.
The orange crown is more rounded generally in the male .
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_scintilla#/media/File:RapalaScintillaMFUpUnAC1.jpg
https://wingscales.com/content/record/3402-1-876e5.jpg
Female.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Rapala-scintilla.jpg
R. manea is brown largely, the male often with a purple flush.
The orange crown appears more squarish in the male.
SSp. schistacea. males.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_manea_schistacea#/media/File:SchistaceaMFUpUn_470_471_AC1.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/16167224808_15c973dbea_b.jpg
ssp chozeba male , Singapore.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/--_OcJrIvZGs/VJ5Qo6OVaGI/AAAAAAAANEk/Ahid2wv1MLo/s1600/bcd750-S180-Rapala_manea_chozeba.png
ssp manea.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_manea#/media/File:RapalaManeaManeaMUpUnAC1.jpg
R. varuna ;broader bands with double white-edged, ;postdiscal band in space 1b is variously arched/domed ,not a simple straight slant ; black spot & orange crown always rounded..
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Rapala%20varuna%20orseis/indigo%20flash%20-%20Benedict.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmTmOJhE83U/U9ZOcWzgFKI/AAAAAAAAMao/135_VJmM_S0/s1600/bcd3s-S180-IndigoFlash.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Rapala-varuna.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
ButterflyWitch
20-Aug-2020, 06:37 PM
Thank u so much sir...
In each thread I have learn a lot....
I'm very fortunate enouch to b a member of this forum...
Again thank u so much sir, for your valuable time...
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