ID help for skipper

[itsmemei]

Dear Dr Seow,
Please help with the ID, is this Caltoris cormasa?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51345740505_92a5820a51_b_d.jpg

[Psyche]

Yes, it is a female Caltoris cormasa.

1. Usually with a strong reddish tone.
2. Female often with 3 subapical spots; spots usually yellowish.
3. FW upper cellspot tiny or absent.
The colouration is very variable & confusing in photos.
Males.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b-kBsIeG7Mg/TvKQcjw893I/AAAAAAAAFB0/xjXU0db0o9Y/s1600/DSC3319Caltoris-sp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/5uU9MEWlWW-vxMDbCcm1mE1S68_EShbQ2dBJL0hWtBPh-6E48x5YDT-2GZLtTWulnLWFk4Fh2chfEgNFD6Uz_uQm0QD5p1yHUmfQ04DfW t7LGRo6cZGZzJCwB6FIW_8DMSBHVDqi-qKYyMiP7FZMV0LAzAJImA
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TjKxWVHrQmg/VGbOal2gmXI/AAAAAAAAfZE/UXtIkUB2kE0/s1600/CC_adult_CherHern_01.jpg

Females.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7380/9662709824_48bc1841c8_b.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Caltoris%20cormasa/283%20Caltoris%20cormasa%20Bobby%20Mun.jpg


Similar.
Caltoris bromus.
1. FW with two normal cellspot although the upper one is smaller. Spots whitish. Subapical spots often two.
2. Underside dark brown with ochreous scalings.
3. Female underside HW usually with 1- 2 spots in space 2 & 3.
Male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/60699155/original.jpg?1580634497

Females.
Note Underside HW with spots in space 2 & 3. FW with two cellspots.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/142911504/original.jpeg?1626102276
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/142911513/original.jpeg?1626102279

Note large FW upper cellspot, two subapical spots & underside HW with a spot in space 2.
The colouration here is confusingly reddish like C. cormasa.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/60633072/original.jpg?1580547805



Caltoris cahira. Spots whitish; subapical spots often two.
No red tone. Underside HW dark chocolate brown.
Female.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_gKc/UNkf7-O6cQI/AAAAAAAAIJg/leZVbtGOi8k/s1600/DFP+2252+Caltoris+bromus.jpg



Caltoris malaya.
FW without cellspot (rarely tiny ones).
Underside male rusty brown, female more ochreous.

Male.
Note lack of FW cellspot.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/133798757/original.jpg?1622818474

Female.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sEtiy2_aXPw/VuQNuFHClTI/AAAAAAAAlxk/1ZAVSaa3sNULjITw5j0yRqTJiYlDXDGVg/s1600/CM_adult_02.jpg



Caltoris philippina
FW narrowly sharp ; No FW cellspot.
Underside with greenish ochreous scalings.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PKpJ0RdKM-g/VVgQ0Ur9lwI/AAAAAAAAhcM/YslMd-rnvOg/s1600/Caltoris-philippina-philippina--Sunny-Chir-4237.png
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUpUIge8ARc/VVgQs0A2W2I/AAAAAAAAhcE/G5GhTdkiJzY/s1600/CP_adult_field_male_01.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Caltoris%20philippina%20philippina/CP_adult_male_01.jpg



TL Seow:CHeers.

[itsmemei]

Thanks, Dr Seow!