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Commander
17-Sep-2022, 11:50 PM
Encountered this female this morning. Upper and underside shots of the same individual. Is it P. hordonia or P. sandaka?

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Psyche
18-Sep-2022, 02:30 AM
Normally in the past I would consider this a typical female Pantoporia hordonia.
But over the years I have not seen anyone shot a male Pantoporia hordonia.


The last male seem to be this pic of yours.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eHnx5jNOlqQ/X99AS6EPU2I/AAAAAAAAako/xLpy8kz3-ykGQofb-WgwPo4X9AH9sXUWgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2000/CommonLascar-KSK5.jpg

Compare male hordonia from P. Malaysia.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/105638206/large.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6TIVtGI_okk/U3dZiNWZG2I/AAAAAAAAOdc/ONasPwcgx60/s1600/DSC_0229.JPG
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/225000070/large.jpeg


Also female hordonia from P. Malaysia.
The FW orange submarginal band fades off at the apex or is itself rather obscure.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/2955450/large.JPG
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsULpFSI_bE/V1F4-jAS09I/AAAAAAAAaFs/8zPxbcfG9zoqbadSBgt4YCMcpN8QkttbgCLcB/s1600/DSC_2572.JPG
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/29184148/large.jpg


Other similar pix taken in inaturalist are all females.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/50818636/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/30274381/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/175156740/large.jpg


Without a single shot of a male hordonia over the years, all these have to be female sandaka.


TL Seow: Cheers.
PS.
Shots of the male P. sandaka from inaturalist are many.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/63896423/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/229090835/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/143377414/large.jpg