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JitLeangFoo
17-Jan-2023, 09:49 PM
In Singapore
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Thanks.

Psyche
18-Jan-2023, 05:39 PM
It is a male Deudorix epijarbas.

The three known species of Deudorix in Singapore may be IDed thus.
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Deudorix epijarbas.
Ground colour typically brown.
FW postdiscal with margins mostly straight & regular.
FW /HW submarginal bands obscure or obsolete.
HW postdiscal typically intact & rarely broken through.
Males & a female.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/250974984/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/252090989/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/252224514/large.jpg


Deudorix elioti.
Ground colour typically grey.
Postdiscal band with margins usually scalloped & the band more macular (spots-like).
FW/HW submarginal bands distinct, as dark as the postdiscal.
HW always with the postdiscal band broken through at some point.
Orange ring is edged out in black.
2 Males & 2 females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/249752005/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/250060353/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/242925468/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/249061693/large.jpg


Deudorix staudingeri
Larger species with sharper FWs & straighter outer margin.
Similar to epijarbas but white striae weak or obscure.
The dark striae are more prominent.
Two males. Both from the Central Water Catchment Area.
Feb 2012.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/13230793/large.jpg
Aug. 2019.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/48030960/large.jpeg




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horace2264
19-Jan-2023, 09:34 PM
Could this be a Deudorix staudingeri? Shot in 2006 at TBHP.

The HW orange spot is not surrounded in black.
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Psyche
19-Jan-2023, 10:53 PM
Post 3.

Yes. This is a male Deudorix staudingeri.

The dark striae are prominent & the white striae somewhat faded.
The orange ring is more rounded, & not outlined in black.


In contrast, in D. epijarbas, the white striae are strong, the dark striae weak, the orange ring is more rectangular. It may or may not be edged darker.
Three males of D. epijarbas for comparison.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/200463443/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/96775989/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/250696653/large.jpg


This observation from USR Oct 2006 is also D. staudingeri.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/159334408/large.jpg



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horace2264
19-Jan-2023, 11:32 PM
Many thanks, Dr Seow for the ID confirmation. :):gbounce:

Zicky
21-Jan-2023, 10:26 PM
Dear Doctor Seow,

I have shot a Deudorix from USR as well, would this be a D. staudingeri or D. epijarbas? The specimen is a bit faded, and harder to ID
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124408204
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Skipping regards
Zicky

Psyche
21-Jan-2023, 11:09 PM
Post 6.
The white atriae in D. epijarbas is typically very strong.
If both white & dark striae orf the FW band are equally faded as here it is D. epijarbas.

In contrast in D. staudingeri, the FW band's white striae fades off or become sullied, the dark striae are prominent.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/13230793/large.jpg

Worn male D. epijarbas for comparison.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/173375690/large.jpeg

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Psyche
22-Jan-2023, 06:30 AM
D. staudingeri with partial upperside.
Note smaller red area on the FW.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/88637150

http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4i/83705001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4i/83700001.html



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