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SL Liew
26-Jul-2023, 12:53 AM
Hi Dr. Seow,
I visited Fraser's Hill yesterday. Sorry these are faraway, blurry and often single view only and so may not be identifiable based on photos. I have put my best guess but could be totally wrong. Thanks. From Penang island, SL Liew

1. Arhopala kinabala?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806634

2. Chersonesia risa?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806633

3. Atrophaneur sycorax? I can't think of any other species.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806636

4. Cupitha purreea?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806631

5. Hypolimnas bolina? Moth species?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806643

6. Lycaenidae (upperside photo only)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806632

Psyche
26-Jul-2023, 02:23 AM
1. Arhopala kinabala.
Scalloped HW margin.


2. Chersonesia rahria.
FW apex have a curved cross line.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1/20793799151
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chersonesia_risa#/media/File:Chersonesia_risa_Balpakram_Meghalaya.jpg


3. Female Atrophaneura nox erebus.
https://malaysiabutterflies.myspecies.info/sites/malaysiabutterflies.myspecies.info/files/IMG_6197.JPG


4.Cupitha purreea.


5. Unknown Probably moth.


6. Female unknown.


TLSeow: Cheers.

SL Liew
26-Jul-2023, 02:28 AM
Thanks Dr. Seow for all the id. Appreciate it very much

Psyche
26-Jul-2023, 06:56 AM
6. Female Iraota rochana.

This is the only female which is totally brown & unmarked.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Iraota%20rochana%20boswelliana/2009_06_27_1D3_IMG_4765.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

Psyche
26-Jul-2023, 05:29 PM
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174806643

5. Male Athyma selenophora.

28352


This an unusual shot taken up against the sky.
This exposed the partially translucent white markings but everything else is black.
Where the FW & HW overlap no light shines through.
This means on the FW only the upper end of the band is illuminated creating a round spot.
On The HW only the lower half of the band is lighted creating a short bar.
The HW postdiscal series of spots is variable.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720590010.html

That a level shot of the wings is possible is only because the butterfly flies in a slow semi-glide with short wingbeats.
Most other species will be rendered an unrecognizable blur.


TL Seow: Cheers.

SL Liew
26-Jul-2023, 09:03 PM
Thanks Dr. Seow for the extra id and detailed explanations. Appreciate it very much

4. A number of my fellow Malaysia butterfly enthusiasts in iNaturalist disagreed that my observation is Wax Dart. They say it looks more like a Pieridae. May be my photo with angle taken is not too helpful in id. Can please share any tips on this id. Thanks.

New Addition:
7. Is this Cepora nadina andersoni?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174779544

Psyche
26-Jul-2023, 10:53 PM
"4. A number of my fellow Malaysia butterfly enthusiasts in iNaturalist disagreed that my observation is Wax Dart. They say it looks more like a Pieridae. May be my photo with angle taken is not too helpful in id. Can please share any tips on this id. Thanks."

I would have thought you already know if it is a skipper or not.
Cupitha purreea is a small skipper that zip about in the bush.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/76ae5c_8aa8bb72ceb94c199e8737d5cbb4b827~mv2_d_4312 _3488_s_4_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_552,h_432,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/76ae5c_8aa8bb72ceb94c199e8737d5cbb4b827~mv2_d_4312 _3488_s_4_2.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91740001.html

Any of the Pierid would have been 3 times larger & fly in a fast & erratic manner.
However I cant find any match & there is perspective distortion.


The other pic is C. nadina.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20430010.html

TL Seow: Cheers
PS. 4 is a worn female Saletara panda.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Saletara%20panda%20distanti%20distanti/yellow-TBID-800_zps02559d7f.jpg

SL Liew
27-Jul-2023, 12:46 AM
Thanks again Dr.Seow.

It was my mistake to place under a skipper after at first being unable to find a match in C&P5 for a Pieridae. I still have much to learn.