ID request - Lubok Semilang, Langkawi, Kedah - October 2, 2023

[SL Liew]

Hi Dr.Seow,
My second visit to Lubok Semilang, Langkawi. Need your help to id or confirm id. Thanks. SL Liew

#1
Arhopala sp.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903451

#2
Arhopala athada?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186002637

#3
Jamides malaccana?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903453

#4
Elymnias neaaea
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185877609

#5
Amathusia phidippus?
Several different individuals at same location

#5a
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186011144

#5b
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186011143

#5c
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186011141

#5d
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185859809

[Psyche]

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903451
1. The picture is very poor.
Based on the stiff tail it is probably A. buddha.
eg.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/arhopala-buddha/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_buddha#/media/File:ArhopalaBuddhaCooperiFUpUnAC1.jpg


2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186002637
You have several species mixed up here.
Pic 1 is probably A. silhetensis rather than A athada.

Ssp adorea have wider markings & looks like A. athada.

A. silhetensis have the HW spots 6 & 7 more oblique & curvy.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82240010.html
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_silhetensis_adorea#/media/File:ArhopalaSilhetensisAdoreaMUpUnAC1.jpg

A. athada have HW spots 6 & 7 more upright & blocky, spot 7 quadrate, ie squarish.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82230001.html
https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_athada#/media/Fail:ArhopalaAthadaAthadaMUpUn.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyCsM/SAtsL2WD57I/AAAAAAAABEo/AT9nVYA2Dk0/s400/Athada_adult_m_3.jpg

Past errors.
Pic 3 (22) is A. athada.
https://www.natureloveyou.sg/Minibeast-Butterfly/Butterfly_Arhopala%20silhetensis%20adorea/Main.html
This should be A. silhetensis.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Arhopala%20athada%20athada/Vinous%20Oakblue%20-%20Nelson%20Ong.jpg


The 2nd pic is probably A. buddha. Correction: A. silhetensis (HW spots 6 & 7 oblique.)
The 3rd pic is unknown.



3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903453
You seem to have two species mixed up here.

Pic 1 & 5 are probably Jamides parasaturatus. ( Same individual by the white striae on the FW lower. )

J. parasaturatus.
HW orange crown separated from the white stria by a thin black line.
eg.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Jamides-parasaturatus-1.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1/24160495806/in/photostream/

Pic 3 is Jamides malaccanus. (Different individual.)
HW orange crown merged with the white stria.
eg.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Jamides-malaccanus-1.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Jamides%20malaccanus%20malaccanus/Malaccan%20Caerulean%20-%20Khew.jpg


https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185877609
4. Elymnias nesaea.
Underside heavily mottled with diffused white spots. HW margin with dark brown border.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40090030.html

Similar. Less mottled.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40120010.html

5.
All Amathusia phidippus.



TL Seow: Cheers.

[SL Liew]

Dear Dr. Seow,
Oops... sorry for my mixed up photos. I will be more careful.

Have separated "original #3 with 5 mixed up photos) into two separate
#3
For photo 3 only
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903453

#3A
For photo 1, 5 (2,4) separated from pic 3.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186109964

Thanks very much for your identifications. Appreciate them very much.

Best regards, SL Liew

[Psyche]

Dear Dr. Seow,
Oops... sorry for my mixed up photos. I will be more careful.

Have separated "original #3 with 5 mixed up photos) into two separate
#3
For photo 3 only
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903453

#3A
For photo 1, 5 (2,4) separated from pic 3.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186109964

Thanks very much for your identifications. Appreciate them very much.

Best regards, SL Liew




These two are of the same individual with the same tear on the FW.

I have thought this below might possibly be J. parasaturatus due ti the more prominent dark line.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/325169123/large.jpeg

Obviosly the same individual can not be two different species.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903453

There is another pic you have left out, but that is more obvioisuly J. malaccanus.


In conclusion there is no J. parasaturatus.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[SL Liew]

Noted the changes. Only J.malaccanus was observed. No J.parasaturatus was not observed. Will correct and update my iNaturalist observations and id. Thanks again Dr. Seow.

[SL Liew]

Looks like I again put in the wrong photos. Have redone it.

Here are updated observations.

#3
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185903453

#3A
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186109964

[Psyche]

I have check the images carefully.

There appear to be one male only.
Varying clarity & perspective distortion make them slightly different in the different shots.

Ie. you are right from the start. There is only one individual. J. malaccanus . Sorry :embrass:


TL Seow; Cheers.

[SL Liew]

Thanks so much for going through my observation to help in id. Appreciate it.