Request for Neptis ID - Peninsular Malaysia

[SL Liew]

Hi Dr Seow,
Need your help to id these. Thanks.

#1 Neptis?
Gua Kelam, Kaki Bukit, Perlis - April 15, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207502282

#2 Neptis?
Hutan Lipur Titi Hanyut, Yan, Kedah - Jan 28, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/197839004

#3 Neptis?
Gertak Sanggul, south western Penang Island - Nov 10, 2023
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/190571114

#4 Neptis?
Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 13, 2023
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183161902

#5 Neptis?
Hutan Eko Rima Kota Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Selangor - Apr 29, 2023
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/158756999

Thanks. SL Liew

[Psyche]

There are eleven similar black & white Neptini butterflies in P. malaysia.
You generally need the upperside more than the underside as the important FW postdiscal spots in space 1b & the lower margin would be hidden by the HW at rest.

They may be divided into two groups.

Neptis group 1 in which spot 2 & 3 are more or less parallel to the submarginal spots.

Neptis group 2 in which the postdiscal spots runs obliquely to the submarginal spots.

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Group 1 ... Neptis hylas (variable) , duryodana , magadha, & Phaedyma columella.

Group 2....Neptis leucoporos, sedata, clinia, clinioides, soma, nata & sankara..

[SL Liew]

Dr. Seow,
Noted. Thanks for the wonderful illustrations and helpful information.
Cheers, SL Liew

[Psyche]

#1 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207502282

Neptis clinia leuconata.
FW postdiscal spots in a regular row.
FW submarginal spots forms a regular curve at apex, ie not bent in.
HW discal band of uniform width.
Band enter the base of space 3 forming a small white triangle.
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Note 2nd image is that of Neptis clinioides.

https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120020.html

Neptis clinioides.
Similar but HW band widen upwards & lack the spot at the base of space 3.
https://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot.com/2014/05/neptis-clinioides-gunongensis-eliot.html

Neptis sedata.
Rather dark & HW band lacks the spot at the base of space 3.FW spot 3 close to submarginal spot.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720130001.html

Neptis soma .similar broader marking; HW band expands upward; FW apical submarginal spots strongly bent in.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720180010.html

Neptis nata.
FW apical spots slightly bent in (variable); postdiscal spots more rounded, spot 3 close to submarginal spot.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190020.html

Neptis sankara.
FW with a postdiscal spot 4 present (diagnostic.)
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720270010.html


Note in this shot the triangular white spot at the base of HW space 3 is clearly seen.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/367045380/large.jpeg

[Psyche]

#2 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/197839004

This looks like it should Neptis hylas especially with broad (elongate) spots 5 & 6.
The underside colour does not match.
N. hylas papaja.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720150020.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/neptis-hylas/

The next closest N. curyodana, also do not match as its HW band does not reach the margin.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720110030.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-duryodana-nesia

Phaedyma columella also looks similar but the HW band does not reach the upper margin.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720470020.html
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0U6FAqn1hyphenhyphenkS5FKOHplCZKA5DmpzMGI3o gIa1Nr_NE2BNL0P36jiQqKdZI2IJnQBqPF7gf2zBpjCdG1GBeI 1hx253TzL7qh2aQch9SrMOaNDd331rOc-BgmMOI3EVbdJf8IVKA_rTiog/s1600/bcd600-ShortBandedSailor.jpg

[Psyche]

#3 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/190571114

This is the same species as #2 .
The markings suggest N. hylas but the colouration is odd.

[Psyche]

#4 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183161902

Neptis leucoporos. Correction: Spots 2 &3 are equally large ,& so this cannot be N. leucoporos.
FW spot 3 is very close to the submarginal spots; HW band not reaching the upper margin.
FW characteristically have a large spot 2, a smaller spot 1b & a even smaller spot at the lower margin.
Abdomen with a white band in line with the HW discal band.(diagnostic).

https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720200010.html
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjngFqtPQKJAdPjBDVWY8Mpkvhi_MwSZT8AvaknqmdCv1 Ui6YcjFuumWwidT7UDvbXM-QP95qrZm3p5mZOgZ0Vg0WyB_F3i52VvcS9FV79Sx0tzi-04VmyCmMFWXsklH1ULOwfS_8wbiTM/s1600/NL_adult_Sunny_01c.jpg

[Psyche]

#5 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/158756999

Neptis leucoporos.

The FW postdiscal spots are arranged as N.leucoporos.


TL Seow: cheers.

[SL Liew]

Again thank very much Dr. Seow.
Cheers, SL Liew