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SL Liew
15-May-2024, 03:49 AM
Hi Dr Seow,
Can please help id these observations. Thank you.
#1 Arhopala?
Lubok Semilang, Langkawi - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741271
#2 Euploea sylvester harris?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741238
#3 Euploea sylvester harris?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741236
#4 Euploea?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741245
#5 Tanaecia?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215661003
#6 Eurema?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215639735
#7 Eurema?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215639734
#8 Skipper?
Lubok Semilang, Langkwai - May 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215626571
#9 Neptis?
Sungai Sedim, Kedah - May 8, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/214487628
Thank you. Cheers from Penang island, SL Liew
Psyche
15-May-2024, 05:35 PM
#1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741271
Arhopala evansi.
Arhopala cleander group.
28529
Subgroup cleander. Very large. 2X that of the alea subgroup.
Wide spacing between the postdiscal spots & the submarginal spots/band on the HW.
eg. A. athada.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgF_ljVuC84AQGMsi3iPHXiGkG5pKRCYzmnycMwbu3Qtj ni4spNNvgC059BMXNBL7HrETddvxrDBgbOoWRi8Qca1IPQhHRc _jpCowAw4XUcGwWKZ54Vh3s5WYK1Cjp_4dbMTs-JFdNTOqo/s400/Athada_adult_m_3.jpg
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Subgroup alea
Medium HW postdiscal & submarginal spots coming very close at certain points.
Arhopala evansi.
Underside ground with a slatey pink glaze ,striae whiter giving a sharp contrast.
FW postdiscal band widen slightly below spot 4 (not visible here.)
Upperside blue bright , just less than sublustris.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82130001.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/arhopala-evansi/
https://pamsbutterflies.com/genus/106/arhopala
Psyche
15-May-2024, 06:04 PM
#2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741238
#3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215741236
Euploea sylvester harrisii.
Only one species here in which the male have a double brands on the FW.
Only two species here in which the male flashes briliant blue on the wing, ie. E. sylvester & mulciber.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Euploea-sylvester-harrisii
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/31386844
Euploea algea may looks similar but the blue is dark & it largely appears a blue-black on the fW.
The HW submarginal spots are much more elongate.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/euploea-algea/
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fb0jcjsna 0eb71.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwe bp%26s%3D24c3233a1e91de9b286cdd013cda9e6d49d6b6a8
Psyche
15-May-2024, 06:09 PM
#4. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fb0jcjsna 0eb71.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwe bp%26s%3D24c3233a1e91de9b286cdd013cda9e6d49d6b6a8
Euploea mulciber.
The FW apex is bluntly produced & the underside have only small spots.
In particular, there is always a white streak in the HW discal area. (Just visible here in pic 1.)
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Euploea%20mulciber%20mulciber/_MG_4109%20strip%20blue%20crow%2030-12-06.jpg
Psyche
15-May-2024, 07:04 PM
#5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215661003
Tanaecia cocytus aoyamai.
Probably better as Cynitia cocytus aoyamai.
According to the Yukata website aoyamai is the subspecies in Kedah & Langkawi.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721030030.html
Male FWs strongly falcate.
Blue border largely greyish.
Brown area with large diffuse darker & lighter spots.
Psyche
15-May-2024, 09:34 PM
#6.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215639735
#7.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215639734
Uncertain.
Probably one species here.
The general appearance suggest Eurema lacteola, but the inclination of the black border in FW space 2 & 3 even on the upperside seem variable & inconsistent.
Most of the uppersides suggest E. andersonii.
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215626571
Borbo cinnara.
HW with the usual spots 2, 3, & 6. Extra spots may be present in spaces 4 & 5. No HW cellspot.
FW subapical spots in an arc. Antennal clubs thick.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi4LDqeuTytPqAq0C_zRXJIMTOOfjxZ-ShBtXsU_7-Jrf7qpU45frSAiRQ5dOVV3H6bGsfoRhd8YOayAfQwY2b0jTbX1 Do4EV1eufoOY4TXcYb0yaAOE28HKrLkXy4ckCgHOXoXx1sHS70 C/s1600/FS_adult_Federick_01.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge20ianZ2zbwGIPICTWYu-kD3uyNZR2ZB4Am9uzkLI3ZSFYpXRd5g1bmoBtxCf0QG9W-uCg3vTG_WIxCAObbOkYBPHvwZ_LkM8030OJo68gMfsXpViEQ1t SCqWmtrfVDxgBrPjagpw0kB3/s1600/FS_male_adult_unds_01_c.jpg
Psyche
15-May-2024, 10:17 PM
#9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/214487628
Your Neptis shots all seem off focus making the bands diffuse & broad.
Neptis leucoporos.
Three species are very similar.
28530
Neptis leucoporos cresina.
FW spot 3 reaching the submarginal spot. spot in space 1b always small.
Abdomen with a white band in line with the discal band.
HW discal band not reaching the costal margin.
Underside grey.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720200010.html
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Neptis%20leucoporos%20cresina/Grey%20Sailor%20-%202%20Federick%20Ho.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjngFqtPQKJAdPjBDVWY8Mpkvhi_MwSZT8AvaknqmdCv1 Ui6YcjFuumWwidT7UDvbXM-QP95qrZm3p5mZOgZ0Vg0WyB_F3i52VvcS9FV79Sx0tzi-04VmyCmMFWXsklH1ULOwfS_8wbiTM/s1600/NL_adult_Sunny_01c.jpg
Neptis nata.
FW spot 3 well inside the submarginal band.
Spot in space 1b relatively large.
Abdomen without a white band.
HW discal white band reaching the costa (UnH view.)
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190020.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/neptis-nata/
N. nata is actually the clear sailor.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/165_48953-217-5df5d17ac56a1-2_0.jpg
Neptis sedata.Very rare.
Ground black.
FW spot 3 near submarginal spots .
Abdomen without a white band.
HW discal band reach costa..( view UnH)
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720130001.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/neptis-sedata/
Two other spp. N. clinia & cliniodes are more brownish & sullied.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/97_15078-797-581ec13aaf858-1.jpg
Uncertain N. clinioides .HW band eXpands upwards reaching costa.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mPl3oD3PAaM/U2pNgm8FVNI/AAAAAAAAOQE/SNTgCmuM8P0/s1600/DSC_0751.JPG
TL Seow; Cheers.
SL Liew
15-May-2024, 11:19 PM
Again, thanks so much Dr. Seow. Learning so much from your informative identifications even with illustrations.
Cheers from Penang, SL Liew
Psyche
16-May-2024, 11:19 PM
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216006126
This is the very rare Neptis sedata. Correction:Probably just N. leucoporos.
The markings are practically similar to Neptis leucoporos but the ground colour is darker, black.
The abdomen lacks the white band seen in N. leucoporos, it being replaced by a greenish shiny patch.
Neptis sedata
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/neptis-sedata/
Neptis leucoporos for comparison.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/neptis-leucoporos/neptis-leucoporos-2/
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Neptis%20leucoporos%20cresina/Grey%20Sailor%20-%20Neo%20Chee%20Beng.jpg
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s://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Neptis%20leucoporos%20cresina/Grey%20Sailor%20-%203%20-%20Federick%20Ho.jpg
https://www.singaporegeographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Singapore-Geographic-Grey-Sailor-1.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Neptis%20leucoporos%20cresina/Grey%20Sailor%202%20-%20LC%20Goh.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS. There is an observation from Singapore which is N. leucoporos but the abdominal band is white in a side view & green in a top view.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216732688
This need an underside view.
In N. sedata the HW discal band reaches the costa ,but in N. leucoporos it does not.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720200010.html
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720130001.html
SL Liew
13-Sep-2024, 12:39 PM
Noted your additional information of Neptis leucopors vs Neptis sedata. Thanks!
Cheers, SL Liew
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