ID Request - Perlis - May 29, 2024

[SL Liew]

Hi Dr. Seow,
Need your help to id these recent observations during my Perlis butterflying trip on May 29, 2024. Thanks.

A) Perlis State Park

#1 Discophora?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219243285

#2 Flat?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265724

#3 Euploea?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265695

#4 Matapa?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723

#5 Neptis/Athyma?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265701

#6 Tanaecia?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275532

#7 Parantica melaneaus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219241921

#8 Parantica melaneaus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265696


B) Gua Kelam, Perlis

#9 Appias albina, male?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275565

#10 Appias albina, female?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219493979

#11 Appias paulina, male?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275562

#12 Appias paulina, female?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275564

Cheers, SL Liew

[Psyche]

#1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219243285
Discophora timora.

Both males of D. timora & necho are bluish black.
The necho male have a macular blue band while the male timora have a few spot.
D. nechho.
https://www.worldfieldguide.com/images/watermarkimages/68810.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/g1/25/686825/3/129248152.zdSOHk8d.jpg
D. timora.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/ama/50540010.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Discophora-timora-timora



#2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265724

Sarangesa dasahara.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarangesa_dasahara#/media/File:Sarangesa_dasahara-Kadavoor-2016-04-02-001.jpg


#3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265695

Euploea klugii.
Note HW spots small.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30780010.html


#4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723

Matapa druna. Correction: Matapa sasivarna.
Uniform brown. HW orange cilia.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/img_7690.jpg
Matapa cresta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matapa_cresta#/media/File:Close_wing_position_of_Matapa_cresta_Evans,_1 949_%E2%80%93_Fringed_Branded_Redeye_DSC_7498.jpg


#5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265701

Female Athyma selenophora.
FW cell-bar dissected into spots at the end.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720590010.html


#7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219241921
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265696

Parantica melaneus.
Hw base colour black on the upperside, chocolate on the underside.
UnH space 7 with a long 'window'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parantica_melaneus#/media/File:Open_wing_position_of_Parantica_melaneus_Cram er,_1775_%E2%80%93_Chocolate_Tiger_WLB_DSC_0012_(1 5).jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Parantica-melaneus.jpg

Parantica sita.
HW base colour chestnut brown on both sides.
UnH space 7 brown.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_irving/10664415623
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Parantica_sita_on_Eupatorium_fortunei_2011-10-09.jpg

[Psyche]

#9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275565

Appias albina.male.UpF unmarked, apex narrowly black.
underside similar.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20590010.html


#10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219493979

Male A. paulina.See 2nd male from Yala.
UnF with a curved fascia.
UpF apex with 4 white spots increasing in sizze upwards.
HW marginal spots separated triangles.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20610020.html

#11.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275562
Male A. paulina.
See 2nd male from Yala.


#12.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275564
Female A. paulina.
See 2nd female from Satun.

[SL Liew]

Thanks Dr. Seow.

Just to clarify,

A) Do you mean the id is M.druna or M.cresta? Or id is M.druna?

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#4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723


Matapa druna.
Uniform brown. HW orange cilia.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0/img_7690.jpg
Matapa cresta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matapa...e_DSC_7498.jpg
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B) Do you mean that the id is P.melaneus?

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#7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219241921
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265696


Parantica melaneus.
Hw base colour black on the upperside, chocolate on the underside.
UnH space 7 with a long 'window'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parant..._0012_(15).jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-melaneus.jpg


Parantica sita.
HW base colour chestnut brown on both sides.
UnH space 7 brown.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_irving/10664415623
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2011-10-09.jpg

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[Psyche]

Thanks Dr. Seow.

Just to clarify,

A) Do you mean the id is M.druna or M.cresta? Or id is M.druna?

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#4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723


Matapa druna.
Uniform brown. HW orange cilia.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0/img_7690.jpg
Matapa cresta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matapa...e_DSC_7498.jpg
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B) Do you mean that the id is P.melaneus?

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#7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219241921
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265696


Parantica melaneus.
Hw base colour black on the upperside, chocolate on the underside.
UnH space 7 with a long 'window'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parant..._0012_(15).jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-melaneus.jpg


Parantica sita.
HW base colour chestnut brown on both sides.
UnH space 7 brown.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_irving/10664415623
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2011-10-09.jpg

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I don't think you read the description or look at the links provided.
The first name is the id.
The 2nd is a closely similaar sp.


TLSeow: cheers.

[SL Liew]

Thanks. I did checked out the links but I am not confident in my visual analysis. Just wanted to be sure. Appreciate your help.
Cheers, SL Liew

[Psyche]

Correction.
#4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723

Matapa sasivarna.

The wider orange cilia is significant.

Matapa sasivarna.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Close_wing_Basking_of_Matapa_sasivarna_%28Moore%2C _1866%29_-_Black-veined_Branded_Redeye_%283%29_WLB.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/unkana-mytheca/matapa-sasivarna/



Matapa druna.
https://geenature.com/observations/59420677
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/94_961-452-545f0ac6d6bd2-1.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers,

[SL Liew]

Dr Seow, Thanks for id correction. Appreciate it.

[Psyche]

#6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275532

Tanaecia godartii.
Male.

HW blue band relatively narrow, tapers slightly upwards.
FW blue band fairly straight, often inner border smooth with less irregularity.
FW & HW bands almost always lined up at rest.
Underside FW with a dark line that is nearer the margin at the upper end.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207765603
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19375940
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178790439
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/198787657
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186679992
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/193105695



Tanaecia iapis (currently should be cocytina.)

FW blue band irregular often curved with jagged margin.
HW blue band broad throughout.
FW & HW bands do not align well.
Underside FW dark line absent or vague.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185255190
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/217233965
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/198807527
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/195914361
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/182317478
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/182317477
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/180111617
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Tanaecia%20iapis%20puseda/Horsfields%20Baron%20-%20James%20Chia.jpg



Tanaecia flora.
Note T. flora only occur from about Ipoh northwards .
ssp. andersonii in Kedawi have heavier dark margins but the whole population up north is very variable .
Langkawi do not have Tanaecia flora. (Check distribution in C&P4/5 & Fleming's BOWM&S.


All forms of female have blue bands.
FW blue band fairly straight & margin not as jagged as in iapis. Blue band often ends abruptly.
HW blue band broad at the tornus, tapering noticeably upwards.
FW & HW bands align fairly well at rest.
Underside FW dark line diffuse often much zigzagged.
Underside HW outer area paler.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206022317
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/91823182
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/91823182
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/34358907
ssp andersonii
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206732898
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/195915011
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/88339316
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/192340288

Note.
All ypur Penang observations looks to be T. godartii.
All Langkawi observations are T. flora .
Langkawi only have T. flora & godartii.



TLSeow: Cheers.

[SL Liew]

Noted your additional remarks. Thanks.
Cheers, SL Liew