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DaveChiangMai
01-Jul-2024, 06:51 PM
Please can I have some help with these two from southern Thailand (Somgkhla province), Jun 2024.
I think the second image is Arhopala agrata. No idea of the first though.
Mnay thanks.

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Image 1. Not sure of ID.

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Inage 2. A. agrata?

Psyche
01-Jul-2024, 09:00 PM
Image 1
Arhopala moolaiana maya.

The markings are that of the amphimuta group.
The white tornal spot indicate it is either A. moolaiana or norda.

A. moolaiana have FW border a thread & is common.
Arhopala norda have broad FW border & is quite rare.

On the underside they are very difficult to separate as their markings overlap.

However in A. moolaiana the V spot is often fat .
The green metalmark in space 2 if it is a full crescent over the black spot it is always likely to be A. moolaiana. Corrected ie space 2 not space 3.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/52036832978/
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/113357762/original.jpg


Arhopala norda is very rare.
Markings tend to be narrower & the V spot better shaped.
Probable.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/arhopala-moolaiana/arhopala-norda/

Psyche
01-Jul-2024, 09:17 PM
Image 2.

Arhopala eumolphus maxwelli.

FW with postdiscal spot 4 shifted out.
HW spot 6 irregular with a deep outer notch; partial dislocation at vein 2.

The two species A. eumolphus & horsfieldi are very similar on the underside.

A. eumolphus maxwelli.
HW green metalmark in space 1b more uniform ,almost rectangular ,black spot reduced. Corrected ie in space 1b not space 2.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/arhopala-eumolphus/
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Arhopala-eumolphus-maxwelli
In Singapore the metalmark is like a pennant ,tapered flag.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Arhopala%20eumolphus%20maxwelli/green%20oakblue%20-%203%20-%20Fedrick%20Ho.jpg

The northern ssp eumolphus is different.
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Arhopala-eumolphus-eumolphus


Arhopala horsfieldi basiviridis.
The HW green metalmark in space 1b is sinuous & the black spot larger. Corrected; space 1b not space 2.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Arhopala-horsfieldi-basiviridis.jpg
P. Malaysia.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cUGi4ZEhxeY/U6WafA6KvyI/AAAAAAAAPjM/Zb6ENAsc-Zo/s1600/DSC_0319.JPG

Added.
Arhopala agrata ;FW uppermost spot 9 of postdiscal band absent or obscure ;HW spot 6 rather broad; markings weak.
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Arhopala-agrata-agrata
Singapore.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7g/TOM6OmB6rdI/AAAAAAAADpM/6P8VWyrTkQk/s1600/DSC7123-Arhopala.jpg



TL Seow: Cheers.

DaveChiangMai
01-Jul-2024, 09:53 PM
Many thanks for the corrections and explanations.

Psyche
01-Jul-2024, 10:09 PM
Do note the 3rd pic in the webpage below should be A. horsfieldi.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/arhopala-eumolphus/


TL Seow:Cheers.

DaveChiangMai
03-Jul-2024, 02:49 PM
Thanks. Noted.