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Saffron
17-Jan-2025, 01:59 AM
Dear Dr. Seow sir, I hope you are good and healthy as always. I have tried to identify some of the moth species available in our area and would like to have your views on it. Kindly provide the id keys of the species (under the identified genus) if possible.
Regards
Atanu Bora
Cheers:cheers:
1. Achelura bifasciata?
28693
2. Achrosis pyrrhularia?
28694
3. Asota egens?
28695
4. Berta sp.?
28696
28697
5.
28698
6. Cyclosia midamia?
28699
7.
28700
8. Episteme vetula?
28701
9. Eupterote sp.?
28702
10. Mangina argus
28703
11. Marumba spectabilis?
28704
12. Numenes siletti?
28705
13. Ophthalmitis sp.?
28706
14. Problepsis vulgaris?
28707
15. Theretra lucasii?
28708
16. Theretra nessus?
28709
17. Urapteroides astheniata?
28710
Psyche
17-Jan-2025, 09:39 PM
Thank you for your concerns. I am fine.
Now moths I haven't done for quite a while .
with thousands of species it will take time.
I get all my sources from the web with frequent cross- checkingn now easier with the help of GBIFie.
Global Biodiversity Informations Facility.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28693&d=1737045976
Achelura bifasciata is right.
A. bifasciata TL. Assam
Antemedial & postmedial bands parallel ie equal distance apart.
Antemedial may twice as broad as postmedial
More yellowish orange.
Distal wings whiter.
Typical.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/achelura-bifasciata
https://www.mothsofindia.org/achelura-bifasciata
https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/17235667
https://biodiversity.bt/observation/show/6575
https://prakritinepal.com/orange-banded-jewel-moth/
Two other similar species nearby.
A. yunnanensis.
Fascia deeper orange ,more nearly equal.
Postmedial orange fascia more bend outwards in the lower half so that at rest the distance is greatest in the midline between the two fasciae.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/27307256196
https://inaturalist.ca/observations/85398797
A. myamyoana
This third species is found south in Myanmar to north Thailand.
The antemedial is very much broader still ,& the wings darker.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4946291536
Psyche
17-Jan-2025, 10:11 PM
2.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28693&d=1737045976
Achrosis pyrrhularia.
This has a characteristic pattern, the FW basal half & tornus marked weith a reticulate pattern & two prominent costal black spots.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Hypochrosini/hypochrosini_5_1.php
P.Malaysia
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1836100228
India.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/891765437
Psyche
17-Jan-2025, 10:23 PM
3.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28695&d=1737046069
Asota egens.
Brownish yellow with pale veinings & basal black spost.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-6/aganainae/aganainae-5-6.php
India.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4063094270
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4600042807
Psyche
17-Jan-2025, 11:26 PM
4.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28696&d=1737046119
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28697&d=1737046185
This have no proper match but it looks to be a form of Berta chrysolineata with finer spotsw.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_547-797-560c837fc56f8-1.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/196838768
Borneo
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7380/13180952234_e22b04dd38_b.jpg
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_47_3.php
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 12:57 AM
5.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28698&d=1737046214
Macroglossum troglodytus.
Note the very curved antemedial fascia (band)a triangular subapical costal patch joined by an L-shaped black bar to the outer margin.
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/m_ins.htm
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 01:12 AM
6. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28699&d=1737046254
Cyclosia midama.
Various forms & subspecies.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4029195696
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2596334785
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 01:45 AM
7.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28700&d=1737046292
Female Amblychia angeronaria.
Note the FW white spots & the alignment of the dark lines .Very variable.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/amblychia-angeronaria
https://www.mothsofindia.org/amblychia-angeronaria
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_22_1.php
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 07:21 AM
8.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28701&d=1737046320
Correction Most likely Episteme maculatrix.
Below description based mis- identifed images.
Episteme nipalensis.
Antemedial & postmedial spots of similar proportions.
Postmedial spots without darkened veins.
HW bright orange/red.
Abdomen broadly banded black.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/899969044
Same observation as IDed by hkmoths, Dr R. Kendrick.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/627384
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2244221940
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4111617558
Similar but confused with it.
Episteme maculatrix.
FW with the postmedial spots divided by black veins.
Abdomen shaded blackish dorsally.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3323285120
https://www.mothsofindia.org/Episteme-maculatrix
https://www.mothsofindia.org/episteme-maculatrix
Possibly these below may be examples of E. maculatrix different ssp.
FW only the costal postmedial spot with the veins black.
Abdomen with narrower black bandings.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/episteme-nipalensis
GBIF have no examples of these as E. nipalensis.
E. vetula.
FW postmedial & antemedial generally narrow & as yellow bands.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=1793238
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 08:04 PM
9.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28702&d=1737046351
Eupterote ssp.
There are no article detailing the Himalayan species.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/eupterote-spp
10.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28703&d=1737046386
Margina argus.
The FW narrow white-edged spots are set on a clear ground.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4116385411
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4852686798
Margina syringa.
Fw spots set on a ground of interlocking dark fasciae.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Mangina%20syringa_1689035317_265276.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2818584452
Similar.
Argina astrea.
FW spots larger, rounder but only the encircling white striae connecting.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4516511113
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 08:43 PM
11 https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28704&d=1737046451
Marumba spectabilis.
This species is readily recognised by its strongly contasted banda.
The FW tornus contains aseries of loops & enclosed two prominent black spots.
The HW tornus also have two similar spots.
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/m_spe.htm
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_4982-446-5c300caf3c923-3.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4500547935
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 09:32 PM
12. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28705&d=1737046488
Numenes siletti
https://www.mothsofindia.org/numenes-siletti
N. contrahens which is very similar does not occur in India.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/orgyiini/orgyiini_7_2.php
N. flagrans.
The image shown below is a female.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/Numenes-flagrans
The male should similar to N. albofascia from Japan.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/76_Lymantriidae/3217Numenes_albofascia/Numenes_albofascia.htm
Psyche
18-Jan-2025, 10:19 PM
13.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28706&d=1737046540
Hypomecis infixaria.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28706&d=1737046540
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Hypomecis%20infixaria_1698882502_267546.jpg
If you blow up both images & compare all the spots and markings from the left FW inwards to the body & you will find they are quite matching.
Psyche
19-Jan-2025, 12:40 AM
14. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28707&d=1737046582
Most likely Problepsis vulgaris.
This and P. delphiaria are most similar.
Others have the Fw discal ocellus rounded & not attached to the lower margin.
P. vulgaris is about 1.5X larger , the FW ocellus more angular ,& its inner margin not convex.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/669_19343-418-6149a9604260c-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/137_13255-503-5fb681b15b9ee-1.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4516334664
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4525193923
P. delphiaria.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Problepsis%20delphiaria_1732487257_291534.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3070341848
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1836106408
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1836106509
Psyche
19-Jan-2025, 02:02 AM
15. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28708&d=1737046627
Theretra clotho.
Four species are very similar in appearance at rest.
Look at the FW for the postmedial line.
This line runs from the cFW tip to the lower margin.
Then look for the antemedial line that is parallel to it
This start from the costa downwards.
Theretra alecto.
HW deep pink (hidden)
FW antemedial moderate/weak.
FW postmedial line intact, not punctate (broken into spots)
Abdomen no dorsal lines sometimes weakly.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ffrZOFNy14zbHiNJeSoN1WHhQ7F-GEXc3UtrHg9XmH4C7byl3YAIZ8X36APK9rsdd1F0wqYVPFPv-njVyFWvvV11U-UjB73Upt4zZw
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_ale.htm
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/617_17935-835-60fd0bc813e5e-2.jpg
Theretra clotho.
FW postmedial line entire as in alecto.
FW antemedial line weak/obsolete.
Some dark shading around black discal dot.
HW dark blackish (hidden).
Abdomen no dorsal lines.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/2_445-927-55ec3b4e2b87f-1.jpg
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_clo.htm
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/251_6154-881-5d389e77ac0f2-3.jpg
Theretra boisduvalii.
FW antemedial line weak/obsolete.
FW postmedial line punctate, ie broken into a series of spots at each vein point.
Abdomen no dorsal lines, sometimes faint
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Theretra%20boisduvalii_1707006938_258964.jpg
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_boi_a2.jpg
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_boi.htm
Theretra lucasii.
Smaller, FW deeper ie wider at the lower margin so that it is more triangular with straight outer margin.
HW dark.
FW antemedial line moderate.
FW postmedial line punctate, broken into spots.
Abdomen no dorsal lines.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/346_20305-928-6178092da3c2c-2.jpg
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_luc.htm
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/251279247/large.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/1_6072-907-5d2cad9a26ffa-3.jpg
Theretra rhesus. (Light forms resemble T. alecto but greyer.)
FW with ante & postmedial lines well-developed & heavier. Multiple lines visible
Thorax & abdomen with two parallel dark lines.
HW dark.
https://bioquipbugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/P-1H0565-1.jpg
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_rhe.htm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/botalex/3523066481
Note many mis-IDS on the web.
eg.
1. T. rhesus .Multiple lines, abdomen with 2 parallel lines.
Correction: correct as Theretra alecto .Pinkier brown.Faint lines on abdomen can be present
T. rhesus also not known in India.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/139_6247-410-5d41e0ef33afd-1.jpg
In this image below the red HWs is a positive ID for T. alecto.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4924090007
2. T. boisduvalii . FW wingshape not triangular. outer margin not straight.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/293_7240-259-5d98de7408887-3.jpg
3. T. lucasii . Triangular FW with straight outer margin; FW postmedial line punctate.
https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/1830037
Psyche
19-Jan-2025, 05:01 PM
16. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28709&d=1737046675
Theretra nessus.
Typically heavily brown in the costal zone with green on the costal edge.
Postmedial zone also dark, the medial zone paler becoming whitish at the apical costa.
Body also with green shading.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/251_6032-309-5d283fe50e787-1.jpg
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_nes.htm
17. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28710&d=1737046718
Urapteroides astheniata.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/uraniinae/uraniinae_2_1.php
There appear to be a single widespread continental species.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_325-8-55cc1c81dbd0f-1.jpg
TL Seow; Cheers.
Saffron
20-Jan-2025, 11:00 PM
Thank you so much for your invaluable help in identifying the moth species and for sharing the ID keys. Your guidance has been incredibly helpful, and I am deeply grateful for your time and effort in assisting me with my research. I am posting here some more species for your review, some i could not even come to a definite conclusion. So can you please help me out in confirming their identity followed by the definite keys.
18. Amblychia nimia? Same individual.
28711 28712
19. Tephriopsis divulsa?
28713
20. Acropteris striataria?
28714
21. Tetragonus catamitus?
28715
22. Pycnarmon cribrata? Different individuals
(a) 28716 (b) 28717
23. No conclusion.
28718
24. Same individual. So unique in appearence
28719 28720
25. Could not drawn any conclusion. Perhaps from Sterrhinae sub-family (Geometridae)
28721
26. So many similar looking species.
28722
27. Very confusing.
28723
28. So confusing.
28724
Saffron: Cheers
Psyche
20-Jan-2025, 11:03 PM
8. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28701&d=1737046320
Probably Episteme maculatrix.
There is a lot of confusion as what is E. maculatrix & nipalensis.
Whether the postmedial spots have blackened veins is immaterial.
According to original decription.
Episteme maculatrix .Westwood 1841.
Westwood described Eusemia maculatrix as
https://archive.org/details/cabinetoforienta00west/page/67/mode/1up?view=theater
He states the hindwing is a rich orange-red, and the abdomen orange banded black.
An image is provided Plate XXXIII, fig 1.(According to Funet website fig 1 is misidentified & is E. nipalensis)
https://archive.org/details/cabinetoforienta00west/page/n208/mode/1up?view=theater
Episteme nipalensisButler 1875
Butler describe Eusemia nipalensis in which he compare to E. maculatrix.
The differences he noted are.
1. Fw with the four central spots larger & more angular.
2. HW bright orange instead of deep red of maculatrix.
3. Abdomen oranger with narrower bands.
(Westwood commented the banding is more in hte female.
https://archive.org/details/annalsmagazineof4151875lond/page/140/mode/1up?view=theater
Based on the described difference this below should be Episteme nipalensis.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/135_11261-522-5f49fdd01da16-2.jpg
This with the FW spots smaller & less angular , the HW marked deep red should be E. maculatrix.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28701&d=1737046320
In conclusion E. nipalensis have larger angular FW central spots, deep red HW with a smaller black patch.
E. maculatrix have smaller more rounded FW spots & a bright orange HW with a larger black patch.
(maculatrix= spotty look.)
These should be forms of Episteme maculatrix.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/263_4546-144-5bc42bcdc4e5c-1.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers
.PS.
Confusingly another species Chelonomorpha austeni ,1879 Moorei, tL Assam is practically identical to E. nipalensis but there is little mention of this species.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/172963185/large.jpg
Psyche
21-Jan-2025, 01:03 AM
18. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28711&d=1737379694
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28712&d=1737380401
Amblychia pardicelata. Correction: Should be A. hymenaria.
Two similar species in which the wings have a postmedial series of whitish lunulate spots on a diffuse mottled ground.
Amblychia pardicelata.
Smaller species with rounder broader wings.
HW shallowly dentate.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_15421-472-6099ffd44b281-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Amblychia%20pardicelata_1707353001_273450.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_13422-892-5fca163c10d6b-2.jpg
Amblychia nimia.
Large species with longer FWs.
HW margin strongly dentate /serrate.
Fw lower margin slightly toothed.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_4154-505-5b9ce549b2b28-2.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/346_7207-138-5d98d55a218fe-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_4154-505-5b9ce549b2b28-2.jpg
Psyche
21-Jan-2025, 01:26 AM
19. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28713&d=1737380452
Tephriopis divulsa.
FW margin with mid-margin angle; Prothorax not completely dark.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/anobini/anobini_2_1.php
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/346_20308-582-617809f598065-1.jpg
Anoba pectinata is similar but fW margin more rounded & prothorax black.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Anoba%20pectinata_1732477658_295824.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Anoba%20pectinata_1732488275_295848.jpg
Psyche
21-Jan-2025, 02:25 AM
20.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28714&d=1737380485
Acropteris leptaliata.
Six species are known from India.
1. A. iphiata HW margin rounded.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_573-33-56106b0332b75-1.jpg
2. A. ciniferaria. Fasciae diffuse ;HW with prominent black spot at tail.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/467_10560-695-5f1c0a39d28ec-1.jpg
3 A.striataria Similar to iphiata ;FW margin black, HW tailed.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/114_2962-897-5a5cd85be862b-1.jpg
4. A. rectinervata.
FW with a uniform white marginal band
FW veins straight & parallel to base.
https://m.singapore.biodiversity.online/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Lepidoptera-000382
5. A. grammearia.
FW white marginal band widen near apex; FW veins converge towards the base.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/13622775/large.jpeg
6. A. leptaliata.
HW with the medial dark fascia irregularly broad.
FW apex more produced.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5006913727
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4438165563
Psyche
21-Jan-2025, 07:03 AM
21. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28715&d=1737380540
Tetragonus catamitus.
Distinct angular HW & fasciae.
Widespread in the oriental region.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/callidulidae/callidulidae_1_1.php
2nd species only in sundaland & eastwards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragonus
Psyche
21-Jan-2025, 07:35 AM
22. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragonus
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28717&d=1737380675
Pycnarmon cribata.
Of the several similar species, recognised by the basal half of the costa marked by small streaks & bars.
The FW apex with a black mark & the the two outer costal spots larger & usually hollow.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/pycnarmon
Psyche
22-Jan-2025, 10:39 PM
23.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28718&d=1737380718
No match.
Like a Crambid but the head is wrong.
Some resemblance to a Thyrididid.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/15657144160/
24. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28719&d=1737380982
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28720&d=1737381023
No match The wingshape looks familiar.
25. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28721&d=1737381083
The pattern & larger head suggest Geometrid but no match found.
26. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28722&d=1737381241
Gesonia obeditalis.
A nondescript but widespread species.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_vi/miscellaneousvi_24_1.php
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gesonia_obeditalis_%286534512139%29.jpg
27. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28723&d=1737381456
No match
Large head suggest a Geometrid moth.
28. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28724&d=1737381804
This looks correct as an Autoba species.
The closest match is Australian .
https://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/acon/dispar.html
Perhaps an accidental import.
TL Seow :Cheers.
Saffron
23-Jan-2025, 01:59 AM
Thank you so much Dr. Seow sir for all your efforts and time. I have gone through a lot of literature and images on the web and found a potential match for no 23
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28718&d=1737380718
Could this be Calindoea anticalis
The closest match
https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/taxa/578715-Calindoea-anticalis
Psyche
23-Jan-2025, 06:51 PM
Thank you so much Dr. Seow sir for all your efforts and time. I have gone through a lot of literature and images on the web and found a potential match for no 23
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28718&d=1737380718
Could this be Calindoea anticalis
The closest match
https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/taxa/578715-Calindoea-anticalis
You got it.
I tried googling thyrididae without success.
It seem to be not uncommon in Thailand.
The author below would have IDed thru Moths of Thailand.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyworthington/51840399190/
http://www.norththailandbirding.com/pages/galleries/moths_c/th/th-055.html
https://www.phuketnaturetours.com/Pages/iframephotos.php?level=family&choice=64394&ordername=Lepidoptera&orderid=64&familyname=Thyrididae
The Autoba species seem to look good as there is just no other species that come close
Several Australian species of moths & butterflies are now established in Asia.
eg Cephrenes trichopepla.
The other three are still in the dark
TL Seow: Cheers.
Psyche
24-Jan-2025, 05:41 AM
25. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28721&d=1737381083
Found the perfect match for this in Thaibugs.
The ID is not solved however.
https://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=219
https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/sterrhinae/sterrhinae.jpg
Tried inaturalist Thailand with no success.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?page=11&place_id=6967&project_id=moths-of-thailand&taxon_id=123037&verifiable=any
You might want to give it a go.
27. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28723&d=1737381456
This might also be a Thyridid.
The head is broad & the FW discal spot do not suggest Geometrid.
Somewhat similar FWs, but HW have another band.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/163134419
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/163952663
TL Seow: Cheers.
Psyche
25-Jan-2025, 03:03 AM
no 28. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28724&d=1737381804
Rhesala imparata.
Two Rhesala species are wide spread species.
The FW pattern are very variable.
fW apex with a well-defined black spot.
HW marked by a dotted postmedial band.
R. moestalis . Africa & eastwards.
FW apical black spot rounded.
https://africanmoths.com/pages/EREBIDAE/CALPINAE/rhesala%20moestalis.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhesala_moestalis#/media/File:Rhesala_moestalis-25.jpg
R. imparata.india to australia.
FW apical black spot a triangular patch at the the costa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhesala_imparata#/media/File:A48-20150512-020_(19695171559).jpg
https://lepiforum.org/wiki/page/Rhesala_imparata_En#Diagnosis
https://www.flickr.com/photos/budak/51824304295
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS. The two can be hard to separate in some areas.
R. imparata.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4436294131
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2252059103
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3903147781
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3804293490
R. moestalis.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4171637347
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4946304781
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3729113023
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456534840
Psyche
26-Jan-2025, 03:28 PM
25.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28721&d=1737381083
This is very similar to this IDed as Eois spp.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183460970
Note similar white antennae, white collar, body & ground pattern.
Other spp of Eois for comparison.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148155186
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/92555953
TL Seow: Cheers.
Saffron
27-Jan-2025, 01:32 AM
The ID of no. 28 was quite difficult in the literature. However you solve the puzzle. Thank you so much.
It indeed is Rhesala imparata.
GBIF seems to be a very good platform for a preliminary survey.
The following are requested for confirmation and ids (if possible).
29. Caldubotys caldusalis?
28725
https://www.mothsofindia.org/caldubotys-caldusalis
30. Berta annulifera?
28726
https://www.mothsofindia.org/berta-annulifera
31. Catoria sublavaria
28727
https://www.mothsofindia.org/catoria-sublavaria
32. Clostera fulgurita?
28729 28728
https://www.mothsofindia.org/clostera-fulgurita
33. Hymenia perspectalis?
28730
https://www.mothsofindia.org/hymenia-perspectalis
34. Eois memorata?
28731
https://www.mothsofindia.org/eois-memorata
35. Dysaethria spp? This one has more marbling markings than Dysaethria quadricaudata i feel.
28732
Tentative:
Dysaethria quadricaudata[/I]
https://www.mothsofindia.org/dysaethria-quadricaudata
36. The closest match is Urola nivalis which is not found in India. However the FW spots are missing or perhaps hidden on the wings??
A separate species/subspecies of Urola?
28737
37. Rhesala ssp?
28733
38. Nevrina procopia?
28734
39. Drapetodes mitaria?
28735
40. Another UFO?
28736
41. Very difficult group
28738
Cheers: Saffron
Psyche
27-Jan-2025, 09:42 PM
"GBIF seems to be a very good platform for a preliminary survey."
Care must be taken as GBIF offers many observations from iNaturalist.
There are many misidentifications.
However the location given is very useful.
eg correct examples of R. imparata can be obtained from Taiwan as R. moestalis is absent there.
29.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28725&d=1737906769
Caldubotys caldusalis/
This is fairly widesread.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Caldubotys_caldusalis#/media/File:V33-20180427-105_(41742121184).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Botyodes_caldusalis#/media/File:V33-20180427-105_(41742121184).jpg
A 2nd widespread species left as Botyodes asialis have broad brown borders.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4519026168
Psyche
27-Jan-2025, 09:58 PM
30. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28726&d=1737907139
Berta annulifera (= bearing rings).
FW postmedial finely irregular & continuous.
Discal spots made of small rings.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_47_2.php
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/56738892
The wide empty green space between the postmedial & antemedial is often confused with the description of B albiplaga.
In B. albiplaga the FW postmedial is mostly spot-like although continuous.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_47_7.php
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/121993281
Psyche
28-Jan-2025, 12:38 AM
31.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28727&d=1737907296
Catoria olivescens.
Postmedial is a series of linked lunules edged with dark spots on the inside margin.
C. sublavaria
Lighter with less contrasted markings.
HW margin rounded ,less crenulate with the marginal spots flattened or shallow.
HW discal spot small.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4994672516
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4857411387
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3804286533
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4857411969
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2265677478
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/226602870
Catoria olivescens
Heavier more contrasted markings.
HW margin more crenulate with the marginal spots larger & deeper.
HW discal spot often larger & more prominent.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4134781117
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3323844635
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4438168799
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4170796087
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3804289496
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/226602645
Psyche
28-Jan-2025, 01:13 AM
32.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28729&d=1737907575
Clostera fulgurita.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-4/clostera/notodontidae_63_1.php
Two similar species.
C. fulgurita.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4067184826
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4855153764
C. pallida.
Larger ,paler, the postmedial edging a larger patch of orange-brown.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4516767369
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4067190711
Psyche
28-Jan-2025, 01:23 AM
33.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28730&d=1737907908
Hymenia perspectalis.
Widespread common species.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4952557102
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2573984318
Psyche
28-Jan-2025, 01:46 AM
34.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28731&d=1737908139
Eois memorata.
https://www.gbif.org/es/occurrence/3874023760
Psyche
28-Jan-2025, 02:06 AM
35.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28732&d=1737908262
Dysaethria quadricaudata.
This have all the correct markings in the right places.
The HW band is just more prominent.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1993729955
Psyche
28-Jan-2025, 09:02 AM
36.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28737&d=1737909287
Uncertain.
Not Urola nivalis which have dark antennae & hooked FW rip.
https://www.cirrusimage.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/snowy-urola-1440-2023.jpg
37. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28733&d=1737908836
Looks familiar. Uncerain.
38.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28734&d=1737908923
Nevrina procopia.
Widespread species , India to PNG>
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4935689457
39. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28735&d=1737909033
Drapetodes mitaria.
Two similarly marked species.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152565761
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/57826229
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/56602231
40.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28736&d=1737909129
Unknown
Close to this but checquered cilia do not match.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/50_PYRALOIDEA/Crambidae/63.9_Pyraustinae/Syllepte/Syllepte%20iophanes/Syllepte%20iophanes.htm
41.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28738&d=1737920768
Uncertain.
Geometrid moth like Maxates.
TL Seow ;Cheers.
PS Off for two days CNY, before resuming search.
Can't do proper search on smartphone.
Psyche
30-Jan-2025, 11:52 PM
37.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28733&d=1737908836
No match found after going thru Erebidae & Thailand Noctuiidae.
Very similar to Rhesala imparata nut for the two discal spots.
India only have two sp of Rhesala, moestalis, & imparata but all Rhesala ssp seem to lack these spots.
Still could be an aberration.
41. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28738&d=1737920768
Maxates.
India have at least a dozen species and no literature on it.
Only 4-5 species are identifiable.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Saffron
31-Jan-2025, 03:56 AM
Thank you so much Dr. Seow for all your review and detailed discussion.
I got quite confused on
18. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28711&d=1737379694
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28712&d=1737380401
Here are the specimen images of this above attached individual collected.
No. 18 Revision
28739 28740
Does this match Amblychia pardicelata?
After going through some web searches and taxonomic review of the old literature, this also has resemblance with A. hymenaria.
Kindly help me out in this case.
Literature suggest the underside of A. pardicelata to be whitish with a large black spot at the end of the discal area.
This is perhaps a male individual.
Psyche
31-Jan-2025, 10:06 AM
Thank you so much Dr. Seow for all your review and detailed discussion.
I got quite confused on
18. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28711&d=1737379694
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28712&d=1737380401
Here are the specimen images of this above attached individual collected.
No. 18 Revision
28739 28740
Does this match Amblychia pardicelata?
After going through some web searches and taxonomic review of the old literature, this also has resemblance with A. hymenaria.
Kindly help me out in this case.
Literature suggest the underside of A. pardicelata to be whitish with a large black spot at the end of the discal area.
This is perhaps a male individual.
What a terrible confusing mess.
You are right.
It should be Amblychia hymenaria.
In SE Asia including neigbouring Thailand, A. hymenaria have a distinct oblique white FW band.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_22_3.php
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1415534380
https://data.nhm.ac.uk/search
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2598681142
Strange to have banded form in S, India.(Correction : female have stronger band.)
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3988792638
Hampson's description.
https://archive.org/details/moths03hamp/page/249/mode/1up?view=theater
Matching images.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_20234-231-6175f6ef6fe61-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_20234-231-6175f6ef6fe61-2.jpg
Amblychia nimia.
Prout's description.
https://archive.org/details/novitateszoologi32lond/page/53/mode/1up?view=theater
Prout indicate Hampson's description of A. hymenaria should be A. procellosa, but 'procellosa' is now a junior synonym of hymenaria.
Correction: Prout was referring to Warren's description of hymenaria which should be procellosa.
Note UnF heavy with confluent spots.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_4154-505-5b9ce549b2b28-2.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_4154-505-5b9ce549b2b28-1.jpg
Amblychia pardicellata
Walker's description
https://archive.org/details/listofspecimenso2526brit/page/1544/mode/1up?view=theater
Warren's
https://archive.org/details/moths03hamp/page/249/mode/1up?view=theater
More or less matching images.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_15421-472-6099ffd44b281-2.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_15421-472-6099ffd44b281-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_13422-892-5fca163c10d6b-2.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_13422-892-5fca163c10d6b-1.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS.
Likely an intermediate cross, possibly with nimia.
The underside is as in hymenaria, but the white patch beyond the discal spot is rather weak
PS2.
All forms of A. hymenaria typically have some form of an oblique band on the FW.
From India & Sri Lanka.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=LK&taxon_key=11560614
Guenee's description of A. hymenaria is in French.
His description of the underside is as follow.
White underside, whipped with black, with a wide black border indented at the terminal edge by white spots that are missing between 1 and 1'.
Psyche
01-Feb-2025, 05:05 PM
18. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28740&d=1738263113
Note Hampson's description of A. pardicelata.page 250
https://archive.org/details/moths03hamp/page/249/mode/1up?view=theater
1. Differ from hymenaria in being paler & browner.
2. Abdomen yellow beneath.
3. Und white ,with black discal spot & submarginal patches to each wing.
4 Ssp megaspilata large, like hymenaria ,underside with complete submarginal band.
A. hymenaria showing abdomen colour.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_20234-231-6175f6ef6fe61-2.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1415534380
A. pardicelata showing distinct yellow abdomen.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_15421-472-6099ffd44b281-2.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_13422-892-5fca163c10d6b-1.jpg
If you have the specimen you may want to check the abdomen if it is ssp megaspilata of A. pardicelata.
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS.
This is likely to be an example of ssp megaspilata as it has a complete submarginal band.
(Correction: This is a misID of a Chorodna sp.? creataria.)
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4917413768
In NE India there will be all range of intermediates between ssp pardicelata and ssp megaspilata.
PS2.
Hampson's description of ssp megaspilata seem in error.
Here is the original author ,Warren's description .
Megaspilata means large spotted, and Warren was referring to the large UnH submarginal spots.
There should not be a complete band there.
page 430.
https://archive.org/details/novitateszoologi01lond/page/430/mode/1up?view=theater
Saffron
03-Feb-2025, 04:35 AM
Thank you for this detailed review. All the ID pointers perhaps suggest it to be A. hymenaria. The underside matches hymenaria, but the white patch beyond the discal spot is rather weak.
Here is the close view of the abdomen following Hampson's description of A. pardicelata
Abdomen does not seem to be yellow beneath
28741 28742
Saffron
03-Feb-2025, 04:52 AM
From Today's Trip
42. Nosophora semitritalis?
28743
https://www.mothsofindia.org/Nosophora-semitritalis
https://www.gbif.org/species/1879379
43. Hopefully Catoria olevescens?
Specimen images of the same individual
28744 28745 28746
44. Teldenia vestigiata ?
28747
https://www.mothsofindia.org/teldenia-vestigiata
https://inaturalist.lu/taxa/567977-Teldenia-vestigiata
45. Bradina admixtalis?
28748
https://www.mothsofindia.org/bradina-admixtalis
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/654107-Bradina-admixtalis
46. No perfect match.
Hypena sp. ?
28749
Psyche
04-Feb-2025, 01:28 AM
18 Best left as Amblychia hymenaria.
I still think there is a hybrid element.
42. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28743&d=1738525066
This has also been identified as Nosophora semtritalis but I think it is a different species.
FW postmedial is like a wine-glass, with the lower spot much reduced.
Typical N. semitritalis can be seen from HongKong & Taiwan.
The FW postmedial is like a fig of eight ,the two spots large.
Hongkong.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/169603354
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/210663218
Taiwan.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3342634330
Arunachal Pradesh
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Nosophora%20semitritalis_1704553856_281167.jpg
The one with the postmedial like a wine-glass runs from Yunnan to West Behgal .
Yunnan.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/21567709959/
India.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4846947379
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Nosophora%20semitritalis_1663236817_250603.jpg
No literature.
43. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28744&d=1738525183
This does look correct as C. olivescens.
In particular, the ground is darker & the HW discal spot is large.
There seem a whole range of intermediates between typical C. sublsvsria & C. olivescens.
Psyche
04-Feb-2025, 07:48 PM
44.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28747&d=1738525419
Likely to be Teldenia specca.
There are a lot of confusion between the three species, T. vestigiata, specca & alba.
I will leave T. alba alone, its appearance is also confusingly similar to T. specca which seem to occur in Sri Lanka as well.
T. vestgiata.
FW submarginal lunules more regular & more or less parallel to the postmedial spots.
Lower end of postmedial spots le3ss convex.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Teldenia%20vestigiata_1703920694_280741.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_410-708-55e3f8f5cc504-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_10456-991-5f16e1f38f990-1.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3005168998
T. specca widespread from India to PNG.
FW submarginal lunules highly irregular, & not parallel to the postmedial.
Lower part of postmedial less convex.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/5753203
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4908788568
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1990467555
These look to be T. specca.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/114_4654-181-5bd60831230a9-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/696_24695-665-626bb3e174dd2-1.jpg
Psyche
04-Feb-2025, 11:15 PM
45. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28748&d=1738525674
Bradina admixtalis looks the correct match.
There is very little literature on Bradina.
46.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28749&d=1738525970
Hypena indicatalis is very close & very likely the correct match.
https://www.gbif.org/es/occurrence/4126972900
https://www.gbif.org/es/occurrence/4453880576
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS.
Now more often known as Dichromia indicatalis.
Saffron
12-Feb-2025, 02:07 AM
Thank you Seow sir for such detailed discussion. Was busy in some office work these days. Hardly got time to follow the discussion. But back to my field work again.
The keys of the genus Teldenia are very helpful.
The remarks on the Nosophora species is very interesting. I also do feel there may be another species that is perhaps narrowed down as Nosophora semtritalis with the Fw lower spots typically reduced.
Cheers
Saffron
Psyche
12-Feb-2025, 06:41 PM
Thank you Seow sir for such detailed discussion. Was busy in some office work these days. Hardly got time to follow the discussion. But back to my field work again.
The keys of the genus Teldenia are very helpful.
The remarks on the Nosophora species is very interesting. I also do feel there may be another species that is perhaps narrowed down as Nosophora semtritalis with the Fw lower spots typically reduced.
Cheers
Saffron
In going through the Nosophora ,the forms with the lower postmedial spot large occur in the east ie, Hk, Taiwan ,Korea, & Japan.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4067374591
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1934786822
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4904286639
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4867835992
The forms with the lower postmedial spot reduced is mainly in NE India.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/Nosophora-semitritalis
Since the author below is pretty accurate with his IDs, N. semitritalis should be correct.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/21567709959/
TL Seow: Cheers.
Saffron
14-Feb-2025, 04:29 AM
These are from my recent survey. I have tried my level best to id them. Kindly review them and help me in their identification,
47. Closest match Oxaenanus brontesalis
28750
48. Closest Match Callopistria exotica?
28751
49. Closest match Yashmakia suffusa?
28752
50. Closest match Penicillifera apicalis?
28753
51. Xeropteryx columbicola?
28754
52. Acolutha flavipictaria?
28755
53. Leucoblepsis ostia?
28756
54. Filodes fulvidorsalis?
28757
55. Krananda falcata?
28758
56. Caenurgina erechtea
28759
57. Catoria olivescens? Two different individuals
28760
28761
58. Not sure
28762
59. Amyna sp. not sure
28763
60. Hypomecis sp.? not sure
28764
61. Not sure
28765
Thank you in advance
Cheers: Saffron
Psyche
14-Feb-2025, 09:26 PM
47. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28750&d=1739472988
Oxaenanus brontesalis.
Widespread species from India to Sundaland.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Oxaenanus%20brontesalis_1701257167_267287.jpg
The 2nd species in NE India O. picticilia is little known.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=766160
The nsme picticilia means painted cilia & would suggest it have prominent cilia.
Psyche
14-Feb-2025, 10:03 PM
48. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28751&d=1739473168
Callopistria exotica.
Several species are very similar and confusing.
The description is based on Holloway's remarks.
Position of the marks are described in a set specimen.
C. exotica Markings stringly contraste.
FW antemedial angled in the middle.
Postmedial sinuous.
FW submarginal lae triangles reaching the postmedial band.
Reniform (discal spot) large, stronglywhitened especially posteriorly.
https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/238644
Similar species.
C. repleta.
Antemedia angled at 1/3 from dorsum (lower margin)..diagnostic.
Postmedial onlt slightly sinuous.
Reniform large & whitish.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/observation/Callopistria%20repleta_1688487673_257987.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33398884@N03/5923575728/in/album-72157627038918189
C. pulchrilinea.
FW submarginal close to the sinuous postmedial.
Antemedial rounded rather than angled & broken anteriorly.
Reniform whitened posteriorly.
https://taieol.tw/pages/103525/articles
C. rivularis.
FW submarginal closer to the sinuous postmedial
Reniform not white enhanced.
Antemedial angled centrally.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/251_4002-157-5b64472f8567e-2.jpg
C. maillardi
Antemedial centrally sharply angled.
Postmedial sinuous.
FW submarginal spots well separated from the postmedial (submarginal less elongate sharply, variable).
Renform usually not white-enhanced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callopistria_maillardi#/media/File:Callopistria_maillardi_male.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callopistria_maillardi#/media/File:Callopistria_maillardi.jpg
Psyche
15-Feb-2025, 01:02 AM
49. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28752&d=1739473474
Yashmakia suffusa.
The fasciae matches well with examples of Y. suffusa.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/s-shen_chih/27359936656/
50. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28753&d=1739473797
Penicillifera apicalis.
Widespread species
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/bombycidae/bombycidae_5_1.php
51. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28754&d=1739474040
Xeropteryx columbicola.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/50292800416/
Forms from Sundaland may have the markings reduced or absent.
Psyche
15-Feb-2025, 01:41 AM
52. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28755&d=1739474108
Acolutha flavipictaria.
FW upper postmedial spot rounded.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/Acolutha-flavipictaria
similar but FW upper postmedial spot a broad crescent,
https://www.mothsofindia.org/Acolutha-pictaria
53.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28756&d=1739474164
Leucoblepsis fenestraria.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/drepaninae/drepaninae_11_4.php
https://ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/drepanoidea/drepanidae/drepaninae/leucoblepsis/
Even in the latest revision by R. Joshi 2020 L. ostia is still a junior synonym.
https://www.google.com/search?q=leucoblepsis+ostia+india&sca_esv=1efd172859308584&rlz=1C1VDKB_enMY1026MY1026&sxsrf=AHTn8zrEU_bM0lzqwUv1SQQyPVReD5np_w%3A1739549 897315&ei=yWyvZ7v-EpLl1e8P2--P6Aw&ved=0ahUKEwj7hsutyMOLAxWScvUHHdv3A80Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=leucoblepsis+ostia+india&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGGxldWNvYmxlcHNpcyBvc3Rp YSBpbmRpYTIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFIw0 ZQpxpYqD9wAXgAkAEAmAFxoAGtBKoBAzUuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgC B6AC3wTCAgsQABiABBiwAxiiBMICCBAAGLADGO8FwgIHECEYoA EYCpgDAIgGAZAGBZIHAzQuM6AHjxg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
Psyche
15-Feb-2025, 06:43 AM
54.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28757&d=1739474209
filodes fulvidorsalis.
It seem there is an unusual plain form.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/5296808
Psyche
15-Feb-2025, 06:58 AM
55.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28758&d=1739474241
Krananda falcata.
;The species is only lightly fasciated
The postmedial forms a darker costal patch at the apex, and three or more spots form a darken subdorsal zone.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/krananda-falcata
Psyche
15-Feb-2025, 11:23 PM
56. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28759&d=1739474360
Mocis undata in the dark.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4516602068
Psyche
16-Feb-2025, 12:55 AM
57.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28760&d=1739474484
57b..https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28761&d=1739474506
These are Catoria sublavaria.
There is also an element of doubt whether 31 should be C. olivescens
31.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28727&d=1737907296
C. olivescens have heavier markings & a larger Hw discal spot.
In comparing the regional difference the HW discal spot should be large enough to have an irregular white pupil.
C. sublavaria India.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1836105701
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1848759578
Thailand.
C. sublavaria.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4946455597
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4507934717
C. olivescens.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4138406561
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4945647865
Taiwan
C. sublavaria.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4857411387
C. olivescens
https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/2565943937/media/fc34e6989d1567359f3979645823e0d9
Borneo.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_34_1.php
Use google zoom (right upper corner)on image below to see the irregular pupil.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_34_2.php
Psyche
16-Feb-2025, 12:37 PM
58. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28762&d=1739474543
The markings are as for Callopistria but faded.
Looks good as C. rivularis.
Note the black triangle on the margin is close to the postmedial.
Renform not enhanced white.
Antemedial broadly angled centrally.
The two C. maillardi & rivularis seem much confused & mixed up.
Holloway said the postmedial in maillardi is well separated from the submarginal white marks.This meant the postmedial is well separated from the main body of the submarginals not their long points.
Note antemedial sharply angled centrally.
https://africanmoths.com/pages/z%20MADAGASCAR/NOCTUIDAE/m%20callopistria%20maillardi.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kclama/513094123/
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5007273612
C. rivularis.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3036901514
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4850045484
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2549181011
C. rivularis
Psyche
16-Feb-2025, 03:44 PM
59. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28763&d=1739474659
Amyna axis.
Four widespread species are very similar with wide individual variations.
Amyna punctum.
Large species with longer acute FW & straighter margin.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-13/bagisarinae/bagisarinae_6_1.php
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3449948959
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4922009636
Amyna axis.
Smaller with more rounded FWs.
Postmedial obscure.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-13/bagisarinae/bagisarinae_6_2.php
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29314786
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4126706689
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3384313476
Amyna natalis.
Small species. Costa sinuous.
Postmedial more prominent & doubled.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-13/bagisarinae/bagisarinae_6_4.php
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4976504322
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/3801985
https://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/acon/natalis.html
Amyna stellata.
Small. FW with a rounded apical spot & around the reniform medially.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-13/bagisarinae/bagisarinae_6_3.php
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3804280493
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1934780160
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4407362393
Psyche
16-Feb-2025, 08:28 PM
60. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28764&d=1739474743
61. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28765&d=1739474943
No match for these two Geometrids although 60 should be correct as Hypomecis.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Saffron
17-Feb-2025, 04:16 PM
Thank you once again Dr. Seow for such detailed information.
I found a probable match for
61.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28765&d=1739474943
Tentative id: Idaea craspedota
Reference link:
https://www.mothsofindia.org/idaea-craspedota
Thank you
Cheers: Saffron
Psyche
17-Feb-2025, 07:30 PM
61.https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28765&d=1739474943
Looks like you found it.
I actually went through the whole Geometrid images in MOI looking for a pale moth with dark edgings but still miss it.
Although there are sixty over species the appearance of this species is consistent enough throughout its range.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5146508
A 2nd similar species I. phaeocrossa is more heavily marked.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=HK&taxon_key=5146483
TL Seow: Cheers.
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