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ButterflyWitch
16-Apr-2025, 12:38 AM
Good evening Dr. Seow Sir...

1. Is it Celatoxia marginata?
28809

2. Neptis capnodes?
28810
28811

Thank you in advance :)

Psyche
16-Apr-2025, 06:48 PM
1. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28809&d=1744731456
Celastrina lavendularis.

All Celastrina have halos around the dark spots although it may be hard to see in some shots.
C. lavendularis have spot 7 (& some sub-basal spots) very dark.
FW postdiscal & submarginal spots always well separated.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80870010.html
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Celastrina-lavendularis-limbata


Celatoxia marginata.
This is marked as in C. lavendularis.
Halos may be faintly present, but largely absent.
Note following important details.
a. FW postdiscal spots larger and darker than the HW postdiscal spots.
b. FW postdiscal spots set closer to the margin, so in space 3, the submarginal & postdiscal spots are almost touching.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80850001.html
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/CelatoxiaMarginataMarginataMFUpUnAC1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/CelatoxiaMarginata_KrushnameghKunte_ag751.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/233_8809-620-561b8dde0994b-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/93_20363-811-59d42da4d3fd3-1_1.jpg
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Celatoxia-marginata-marginata

There are many error images on the web.

Psyche
16-Apr-2025, 07:41 PM
2. https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28810&d=1744731485
https://www.butterflycircle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28811&d=1744731501

Neptis clinia.

28812
Three species may look similar in their spots appearance.
They share one feature.
HW discal white band include a small white patch at the base of space 3 as it cross the base.


Neptis soma.
HW base of space 3 may or may not have a white patch.
FW submarginal spots at apex distinctly bent in.
FW subapical spots 5 & 6 of about equal size.
HW discal band widens upwards to the costa, but hardly noticeable in fieldshot.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720180010.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-soma-shania
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/113_79765-586-6058d16560c52-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/93_21538-84-5a025c831c671-2_1.jpg


Neptis capnodes pandoces.
HW almost always with a white patch at the base of space 3.
FW with the postdiscal spots relatively broad (as in N. soma);spot 3 large, at least about 2/3 of spot 2.
FW subapical spot 5 much smaller than spot 6.
FW submarginal spots bent in slightly at apex.
HW discal band slightly wider at costa (not noticeable in fieldshot.)
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720170010.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/neptis-capnodes/


Neptis clinia.
HW usually with a white patch at the base of space 3.
Generally browner with diffuse striaes between spots.
FW subapical spot 6 larger (as in N. capnodes).
FW submarginal spots at apex more gently curved or bent in.
FW postdiscal spots more rounded, always well-separated, spot 3 small .
HW discal band of uniform width.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120010.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-clinia-susruta
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/1303_91134-262-6186a3cf10813-1.jpg
substituted image.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/822_54189-440-5e99cfaccd39e-1_0.jpg


TL Seow; Cheers.
Removed linked image. This looks to be N. sappho. Note fracture line on cell-bar.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sites/default/files/1611_83284-236-60ba1e537b397-1.jpg
Compare valid images of N. sappho.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720140010.html

Psyche
17-Apr-2025, 07:18 AM
I just realised that N. sappho is also very similar to N. clinia

N. sappho.
Ground a darker black with little of the diffuse striae.
Cell0bar more often with a fractured line.
Underside orange-brown.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/925599210
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/925595568
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/925601422
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/925596608
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-sappho-astola
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-clinia-susruta


TL Seow: Cheers.

ButterflyWitch
17-Apr-2025, 03:54 PM
Thank you so much sir...