Taractrocera vs Oriens UFO discussion

[Common Rose]

marking on #2 looks somehow diff. :thinking:

[Commander]

Ya... trying to separate the male/female undersides, with "closer" look at some of them... ;-)

[Common Rose]

the marking looks a bit like this ufo that i got in AH.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/4607.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/4615.jpg

[Commander]

Looks like TAQ. One thing consistent is the absence of the apiculus. Now to establish which is a male and which is a female, cos C&P4 does not show the undersides...

[Common Rose]

but a quick flick of the hindwing shows

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/4617.jpg

which seems to be a Oriens gola pseudolus.

[Peacock Royal]

Nice meeting you and we will have common "talking points" in future liow.
Thanks for all your id of birds for me this morning.
That hoverfly shot is great :thumbsup: so is the Royal Assyrian

[Common Rose]

at present, the underside of Taq which I can confirm looks these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/5061.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/6148.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/6158.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/6361.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/lepi/51140103.jpg

[Commander]

Nah... I won't make that conclusion with a field shot like that... ;P

Common Dartlet's have apiculus on their antennae, no?

[Common Rose]

Nah... I won't make that conclusion with a field shot like that... ;P

Common Dartlet's have apiculus on their antennae, no?
ya, that's y it's an ufo till date. :bsmile:

u know that sometimes apiculus doesn't seems to appear on the shots that we took.

k, enough of OT.

[Commander]

So as not to crowd out our newbie's thread, I've split this discussion away. Those of you who have shot something that looks like Neo's shots of T. archias please post your shots here to compare and discuss.

The Oriens genus is stated in C&P4 (page 379) to have their "antennal club not flattened ; apiculus very fine and at an angle to the club". Hence is many shots, Neo is right to say that the apiculus may not appear, depending on the angle of the shot. The only way is to shoot the butt from top view where the apiculus will be more evident. So if a shot doesn't show an apiculus, it doesn't mean that the butt shot doesn't have it. It depends on the focus and angle of the shot. :thinking:

[Common Rose]

will be @ TPY tmr. see whether can get a copy of Fleming or not from the lib.

[Peacock Royal]

This is the same skipper as what Tang shot (http://www.butterflypals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2437)

[Commander]

One more to the collection of TAQ shots.