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Hi Dr Seow,
It's been awhile, and i'm back to seek your assistance to ID and confirm the following species.
1) Could this be Lasippa heliodore?
Attachment 28383
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162280010
2) I believe this is Lasippa tiga? Just that spot 3 does not really look to be twice of spot 2 and 4; though the tongue is not well defined.
Attachment 28384
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612144
3) Could this be Telicota augias?
No dark scaling on HW so I rule out T.besta. No staggered arrangement on FW so I rule out T.colon. Face and body doesn't look to be as pale as a typical T. linna. This individual looked to be a little more orange than yellow without flash.
Looking forward to hear your opinions!
Attachment 28385Attachment 28386Attachment 28387
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612143
Thank you!
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Post 101.
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1. Female Lasippa heliodore.
2. Female Lasippa tiga.
Lasippa heliodore.
FW submarginal spot 3 spot 3 as wide as spot 4 ,& both twice as wide as spot 2.
Tongue spot at cellend often better delineated in black
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/102081774
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/144489127
Females
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143711454
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159796253
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162280010
Lasippa tiga
FW cellend tongue spot often less defined.
FW submarginal spot 3 twice as wide as spot 2 & 4.
Male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174888488
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173761163
Lasippa tiga is very common while L. heliodore is rather rare.
The spots are described in the set position, ie a set specimen.
The numbering of the spot are as for the species.
It is tempting to describe spot 3 as taller than spot 2 or 4.
Describing as you like soon leads to complications.
I have read some descriptions of species in Wikipedia by citizen scientists & find them incomprehensible.
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3. Male Telicota besta bina.
The upperside pic . with space 2 base orange & the slightly curved brand (nearer inner border of black space)is undoubtably that of T. besta.
Despite there being 4 (possibly 5) species in Singapore the Telicota species prove very difficult to ID in field shots.
Attachment 28389
Telicota colon.
This is easily IDed because FW spots 4 & 5 are staggered out from spot 3.
Spots 4 & 5 are often distorted.
The female have more regular spots 4 & 5 & is harder to ID.
Male
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/16412344
Female.
Female have the upper FW cellend bar 2X longer than the lower one.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6234960
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19466893
Telicota besta. Colour in fieldshots very variable.
This is closely related to T. colon
FW with an orange patch at the base of space 2 (visible also on the underside. Females of all species lack this patch.
Male brand set near to the inner border of the black space so there is an area of black adjacent to it.
Female with upper FW cellend bar loner (as in T. colon female).
Underside with veins lightly dark-dusted, usually with raised veins & shadowlines.
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/17850769
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NbpYa8Xex...0/DSC_0294.JPG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg
Females.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7...male_up_01.jpg
https://butterflycircle.blogspot.com...palm-dart.html
Telicota augias. Very bright orangey usually.
Male FW with an orange patch at the base of space 2 as in T. colon & besta.
More uniform deep orange ,veins not dark dusted.
Male brand large filling the black space. Abdominal end orange, only lightly shaded.
Female with upper cellend bar longer as in the other two species.
Female more orange than other, HW band deeper orange & contrasted (like Cephrene trichopepla.)
Males.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZ...ias_male_2.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/92869158
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/96594881
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/30099087
Note UnH veins not dark-dusted; UpF with space 2 base orange & large brand filling the black space.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/104101569
Females.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20417040
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29427418
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20417040
Telicota linna.
Male& female UnH veins not dark-dusted,
Male base of space 2 black. Abdominal end shaded darker.Underside ground colour tend to be duskier.
Female with both FW cellend bars short.
Underparts often paler.
Males.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148087973
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145415503
Females.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMIT...male_up_01.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145490544
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131436418
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/121857183
TL Seow: Cheers.
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Hi Dr Seow,
Seeking your assistance to ID the following skippers. As the forum seemed to not be functioning properly for me on web, please access the iNat links to view the photos.
Thank you!
1) Telicota besta? as there seemed to be dark dusting on HW wings.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181036284
2) Pelopidas agna?
uniform brown colour and larger than P. mathias.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539431
3) Telicota besta?
Quite orange but based on the male brand drawing it seemed to resemble more to T. besta.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539441
4) Pelopidas sp.
Initial impression is P. conjuctus but the FW spots doesnt look to be much larger than HW spot? So probably P. agna?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539446
5) Pelopidas agna?
Uniform brown and larger than typical P. mathias.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539447
6) Pelopidas mathias?
Dirty mix of grey and brown.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539453
7) Telicota sp.
Rather orange but probably leaning towards T. besta.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181540099
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Hi Dr Seow,
Could you help to verify the following 2 skippers please.
Thank you!
1) Potanthus trachala?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641821
2) Caltoris sp. Maybe C. bromus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641820
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Post 106.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641821
1. Potanthus trachala. Female on the left )greyer).
Note FW spots 4 & 5 are only connected above & below by the spikes to the other.
HW upper block of the band projected outwards.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641820
2. Caltoris bromus male.
Three species have more prominent pale areas on the antennal shafts.
Caltoris bromus
FW typically with two large subapical spots ;upper cellspot also large.
HW dark brown & nearly the same tone as FW.
Female paler, with HW spots 2 & 3.
Male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/163945647
Caltoris cahira.
FW with large subapical spots (2 usually) & upper cellspot.
HW dark chocolate brown without red tone contrasting with FW.
Male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183638559
Female.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg
Caltoris cormasa.
FW subapical spots small two or often three. Upper cellspot small.
HW heavily overlaid with redbrown scales.
Redder tone than in all other species.
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151597328
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162264663
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612106
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178143673
Note subapical spots are small. Less red example.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641828
Females.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/147253163
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173170595
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173170576
Caltoris malaya
Pale area on the antennae weak or none.
FW subapical spots usually two. Cellspot usually none ,ocassionally a tiny one.
male rusty brown, female more ochreous.
Male. Note front antenna no pale area.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133445751
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/161212993
With a tiny upper cellspot but only on the underside.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181903883
Other confusion.
Baoris species.
FW subapical spots reduced.
Upper cellspot may be crescentic.
Antennae mostly black.
HW may have aq pale area at cellend.
[B]Abdomen noticeably banded.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/165866621
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151120606
Female probably B. farri.
Full complement of spots, black antennae, banded abdomen.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153765692
Male Quedara monteithi.
No FW spot, bulging palpi (labial palps).
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/164372780
TL Seow: Cheers.
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Hi Dr Seow,
Managed to uncover this photo in my archives.
Could this be Rapala damona?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184711958
Thank you!
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Hi Dr Seow,
Can I check if this skipper is Parnara bada?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188256849
Thank you!
