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Hi Dr Seow,
Was looking through my older photos and wondered if the following could be Lasippa heliodore?
The FW cellular bar with tongue do not look correct and seemed to point to L. tiga but the submarginal spots resemble closer to L. helidore?
Looking forward to your opinion. Thank you!
Attachment 28153
This is one of those tricky one.
The two species are closely related & so it may not be uncommon for them to cross & produce intermediates.
Generally I would think this is closer to Lasippa heliodore based on the following.
To reiterate.
Lasippa heliodore.
FW submarginal spots 3 & 4 in male nearly equal width, in female spot 3 about 1.5X width of spot 4.
Tongue spot usually defined in black.
Thin orange submarginal band often faded & obscure in the male.
Lower end of FW subapical crossband well notched by spot 4.
Males.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...le_ups_02X.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dCiPo215I...car-LokePF.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...le_ups_02X.jpg
Females.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_02.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HoYdClsYu...scar-MarkW.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Loke.jpg
Lasippa tiga.
FW submarginal spots 3 is at least 2X wider than spot 4 in both sexes.
Tongue spot not well defined in black.
Male thin orange submarginal band usually well defined. Correction: Variable, not quite true.
Lower end of subapical crossband not usually notched by spot 4.
Males.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SJ-nAVEso...ascar-KSK2.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...ed_02_male.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2960/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9378/large.jpg
Females.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...hee%20Meng.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
The image have the following features.
1, FW submarginal spot 3 is barely 1.5X width of spot 4.
2. Submarginal thin orange band faded & obscure.
3. Tongue spot is poorly defined but not an absolute feature in L. heliodore.
4. FW crossband notched by spot 4.
This have more the features of L. heliodore.
TL Seow; Cheers.
Dear Dr. Seow,
Merry Christmas! Thank you for the constant assistance in helping us amateurs ID the butterflies that we have trouble with.
Once again, am seeking your help to ID the following butterflies.
1) Pelopidas conjunctus?
Sorry for the photos with high exposure. The FW spots looked to be a different colour than the HW spots which are white. The size is larger than typical P. mathias too.
Attachment 28154Attachment 28155Attachment 28156
The subsequent photos are dealing with Pantoporia hordonia or Pantoporia sandaka again. Appreciate if you could determine if they are all P. sandaka or there is a P. hordonia among them. Thank you!
2)
Attachment 28157
3)
Attachment 28160
4)
Attachment 28158Attachment 28159
Post 83.
1. Female Pelopidas mathias. Note abdominal end * extra spot in FW space 1b.
The extra spot in space 1b immediately exclude P. conjunctus female as this species lack the spot in the female.
P. conjunctus is larger FW 21-23mm vs FW P. mathias 15-16mm & P agna 16-18mm, & a deeper brown.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93120001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93090001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93130001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93140001.html
P. mathias underside grey-tinged or shaded grey, dirty look.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NQjrfm7_w...enedict_01.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zld9bl5mdB...S_adult_01.jpg
P. agna. Underside with a cleaner uniform brown appearrance.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQNuynda7...A_male_06b.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...A_male_06a.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7zXwSQZiZ...SwiftF-KSK.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ygTUZGa_y..._female_01.jpg
Pelopidas conjunctus. Larger; FW spots larger & yellowish; HW spots whitish. Female FW with only one spot in space 1b.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lt_Khew_03.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lt_Loke_01.jpg
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/expe...dasconjunctus/
Your three Pantoporia are all females, so it is incorrect to ID them without the respective males.
2 looks like P. hordonia female but the FW submarginal band is expanded at the apex, a sandaka trait.
THese examples all all from P. Malaysia.
P. sandaka male; Note a white highlight/ line between the FW & HW denoting the white speculum in this species.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...563/large.jpeg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c8rXTibfeq...0/DSC_0137.JPG
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...110/large.jpeg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...7217/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...444/large.jpeg
P. hordonia Male without a HW white speculum, so no white highlight.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8206/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...939/large.jpeg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6TIVtGI_ok...0/DSC_0229.JPG
Females, Grey band as broad as in the male. orange submarginal band tend to fade out at the apex or obscure.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4148/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8976/large.jpg
I would say all three are likely to be P. sandaka.
You need a male to confirm this species' existence .
TL Seow; Cheers.
PS.
Other females P. hordonia for comparison.
Cambodia.
https://wingscales.com/content/record/451-1-0ade1.jpg
Java.
https://www.jungledragon.com/image/1...side.html/zoom
Hi Dr. Seow,
Adding on a few more skippers for your assistance to verify/ID them. Thank you!
1) Potantus omaha?
Veins are dark dusted.
Attachment 28161
2) Baoris oceia
FW spots reduced; darker in appearance.
Attachment 28162
3) Can't get a look at the abdominal end but is this Potanthus trachala?
Attachment 28163Attachment 28164
4) Abdominal end is black, Potanthus trachala?
Attachment 28165
5) This type of skipper always confuses me. No unHW spots, antenna tip not orange. FW does not have cell spot.
Caltoris malaya?
Attachment 28166Attachment 28167
Post 85.
1. Male P. omaha ,Dull ochreous, veins lightly darken.
2. Baoris oceia.male.
Much reduced subapical spots; FW upper cellspot a crescent.
3 female, 4. male P. trachala.
The body shape is stretched horizontally giving a false impression.
P. trachala have the main /discal band quite nsrrow,
The stretching have cause the FW spots 2 & 3 to appear wide & resembles another species.
Spots 4 & 5 also shows slight degree of overlap tothe others.
Typical P. trachala.
Male.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...anthusM01a.jpg
Female.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6560/large.jpg
There is a close resemblance to P. pseudomaesa a continental species.
P. pseudomaesa.
Male Sri Lanka.
https://slbutterflies.lk/storage/app...1492795816.JPG
Female. S. India.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...495_236702.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...495_236703.jpg
5. Caltoris malaya female.
The FW lacks any cellspot. Note antennal pale area is stronger in this individual; normally very weak in this species.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr. Seow,
Could the following be Telicota augias or is it Telicota besta?
Not sure if the veins are raised but overall shape is a little sharper (could be due to the skipper 'jumping' due to the flash), veins are not significantly dark dusted. The general appearance is pretty orange overall as well.
Thank you!
Attachment 28168
Post 87.
This is fairly consistent with a male Telicota besta.
The HW veins across the band are lightly speckled in black.
Admittedly the Telicota species are very difficult despite only a few species.
Colour rendition in photos is very misleading.
Only Telicota colon male is readily identifiable.
Telicota augias.Generally a deeper uniform orange than others.
Head & thoracic hairs of similar orange colour.
HW veins not dark-dusted.
Abdominal end orange without blackish shading.
Male brand large straight in the black space; base of space 2orange.
Typical males.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ6...as-augias).jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzrel...ias_male_1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZs...ias_male_2.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9...ff7fdc56_b.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f8o_ke_F-V...alm%2BDart.jpg
Others.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5337/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...685/large.jpeg
*https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...103/large.jpeg Correction: Probably hybrid or T. besta .Have some lightly dusted veins.
*https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...527/large.jpeg Possibly T. besta. Note strong raised veins with shadowlines; More yellow.
Females with HW veins lightly dark across the band; band more orangey than other females.
.https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3715/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...788/large.jpeg
Telicota besta is often confused with T. augias.
Male brand is against the inner margin ,
Head & thorax are somewhat darker than the wings.
HW veins are lightly dark, more often raised veins with shadow lines .Abdominal end with a light darkish patch.
Face lighter.
Males.
https://thamfatt.files.wordpress.com...ota-augias.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1rRXJdPYo...ed_male_01.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UaQyq4Qv0D...B_adult_01.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9479/large.jpg
Females with dull colour & lightly darkish veins.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1006/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5635/large.jpg
Telicota linna.
Male brand narrow & in the middle of the black space; base of space 2 black.
UnH veins across the band not dark-dusted ; ground dusky.
Face & lower abdomen paler.
Males.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...251/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...260/large.jpeg
Females.Veins not darken.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V0JtdnjTg..._female_02.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...629/large.jpeg
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Seeking your assistance to ID the follow butterflies.
Thank you!
1) Similar to the skipper that Zick shot, but on a different day.
Could this be Pemara pugnans? Antennae wholly black below and looked to have course scaling?
Attachment 28176
2) Baoris sp.?
Attachment 28177
3) Lasippa heliodore?
Attachment 28178
4) Pelopidas mathias?
Attachment 28179
5) Pelopidas mathias?
Attachment 28180
6) Telicota besta?
Attachment 28181
7) Telicota besta as well?
Attachment 28182
Post 89.
1. Permara pugnans.
Note abial palp have a black line.
2. Baoris probably oceia.
Black antennal club.reduced spot.
B. farri female is said always to have a full complement of spots
male. Yunnan
https://live.staticflickr.com/8293/7...d63b4cb4_b.jpg
Female Singapore probable.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtcxesbOy...eclosed_01.jpg
3. Lasippa tiga.
Submarginal spot 3 is twice the width as spot 4 above it. (Always described in the set position)
4 & 5 male & female P. mathias.
UnH with sullied ground colour & dark shading.
6. Male Telicota linna.
Veins are marked in yellow with barely any dark scaling
Face & underpart whitish.
7. Male Telicota besta.
Veins are raised & with dots of brown running along them.
Only face whitish.
TL Seow:Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Would like to check if the following skipper is Caltoris bromus?
Attachment 28183Attachment 28184
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/149217007 (link here for higher res photos)
Thank you!
Post 91.
Yes. This is a fine example of a male Caltoris bromus.
Caltoris bromus.
Antenna with prominent pale area.
FW subapical spots typically two.
FW cellspot two.Very rarely the upper cellspot may be reduced or absent.
UnH uniformly brown with ochreous overlay.
The female is the only species here that may have HW spots in space 2 & 3.
Examples of males in Singapore.
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd5aebfd1.png
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131436413
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/38212403
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/13664032
Caltoris cahira is similar but the UnH is uniformly dark chocolate.
It is much rarer in Singapore.
Male in Singapore.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/97774898
Females Singapore.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg
The 2nd pic here is that of Caltoris malaya.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/125617950
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr. Seow,
Seeking your assistance to verify the IDs of the following skippers. Thank you!
1. Could this finally be Pelopidas conjunctus?
Almost as large as my thumb; HW cell spot present; HW spots white & FW spots appear yellow.
Attachment 28198
2. Baoris sp.? Maybe B. farri?
Attachment 28199
3. Caltoris cormasa?
Attachment 28200
4. Caltoris malaya?
No pale regions on antenna, no FW cell spot and appear yellowish.
Attachment 28201
5. Could this be Caltoris bromus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150484243
Post 93.
I am afraid your attachments do not show up as images.
5.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150484243
This would be Caltoris bromus female.
Note also in Caltoris bromus & malaya the FW & HW ground colour are about the same.
In C. cahira & cormasa the HW is a deeper darker shade.
Addendum Here the male C. bromus is without HW spot & the female usually but not always have them.
A recent study in Nepal 2022, shows both sexes (?always) have HW spots .
It is thus possible that the occasional male here may have HW spot.
TL Seow; Cheers.
Oops sorry let me reupload them!
1. Could this finally be Pelopidas conjunctus?
Almost as large as my thumb; HW cell spot present; HW spots white & FW spots appear yellow.
Attachment 28202
2)Baoris sp.? Maybe B. farri?
Attachment 28203
3) Caltoris cormasa?
Attachment 28204
4) Caltoris malaya?
No pale regions on antenna, no FW cell spot and appear yellowish.
Attachment 28205
Post 95.
1. Pelopidas conjuctus male.
FW spots yellow & at least twice as large as the white HW spots.
Upper cellspot if visible often large & oblong.
Many misidentification on the web.
Males.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lt_Khew_03.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...422/large.jpeg
Females.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...C_adult_01.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1353/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4436/large.jpg
P. mathias male & female. Note FW spot size.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ft%20-bene.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...hee%20Ming.jpg
2. Baoris female presumbly B. farri.
The pale patch at the HW cellend is diagnostic if present.
Note also the more strongly banded abdomen.
In other countries, B. farri female (& often male as well) is fully spotted thus the name Complete Paintbrush Swift.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...02226b-2_0.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ra_ad839_0.jpg
In Singapore most females are not fully spotted. So an element of doubt here.
3. Caltoris cormasa male.
Typial example. Note the reddish tone.
4 Caltoris malaya male.
The male is rusty brown & the paler female ochreous brown.
TL Seow : Cheers.
Hi Dr. Seow,
Please help to ID for the following butterflies. Thank you!
1. Miletus symethus?
Sorry for the far photo.
Attachment 28229
2. Pelopidas agna?
Attachment 28230
3. Looks to be a different subspecies of Idea leuconoe from Idea leuconoe chersonesia.
Would you be able to differentiate which subspecies this is? Likely an escapee from the zoo.
Attachment 28232
Post 97.
1. Miletus symethus .Female.
Note white shadings at apex of FW & HW.
2. Typical Pelopidas agna male.
Note uniform ground colour without irregular shadings.
3. Idea leuconoe clara.
The usual ssp kept in Butterfly houses is ssp clara from Taiwan.
The interneural (between the veins) arrowheads on the HW are very small.
There is probably an escapee population in Singapore.
Ssp. clara.
https://knowledge.taibif.tw/sites/de...y/00013454.jpg
TL Seow; Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Can I check if this is Lasippa tiga or Lasippa heliodore?
Attachment 28236
Thank you!
Post 99.
Lasippa tiga male.
Attachment 28237
Lasippa tiga.
FW submarginal spot 3 is at least twice as wide as that of spot 2 & 4 ,both which are equally narrow.
Male.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_01.jpg
Female.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
Lasippa heliodore.
Male .FW submarginal spot 3 is as wide as spot 4. Spot is as wide or narrower.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...race%20Tan.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dCiPo215I...car-LokePF.jpg
Female FW submarginal spot 3 is about 1.5 X as wide as spot 4.; spot 2 is alway narrower than spot 4.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_02.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
It's been awhile, and i'm back to seek your assistance to ID and confirm the following species.
1) Could this be Lasippa heliodore?
Attachment 28383
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162280010
2) I believe this is Lasippa tiga? Just that spot 3 does not really look to be twice of spot 2 and 4; though the tongue is not well defined.
Attachment 28384
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612144
3) Could this be Telicota augias?
No dark scaling on HW so I rule out T.besta. No staggered arrangement on FW so I rule out T.colon. Face and body doesn't look to be as pale as a typical T. linna. This individual looked to be a little more orange than yellow without flash.
Looking forward to hear your opinions!
Attachment 28385Attachment 28386Attachment 28387
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612143
Thank you!
Post 101.
Attachment 28388
1. Female Lasippa heliodore.
2. Female Lasippa tiga.
Lasippa heliodore.
FW submarginal spot 3 spot 3 as wide as spot 4 ,& both twice as wide as spot 2.
Tongue spot at cellend often better delineated in black
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/102081774
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/144489127
Females
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143711454
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159796253
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162280010
Lasippa tiga
FW cellend tongue spot often less defined.
FW submarginal spot 3 twice as wide as spot 2 & 4.
Male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174888488
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173761163
Lasippa tiga is very common while L. heliodore is rather rare.
The spots are described in the set position, ie a set specimen.
The numbering of the spot are as for the species.
It is tempting to describe spot 3 as taller than spot 2 or 4.
Describing as you like soon leads to complications.
I have read some descriptions of species in Wikipedia by citizen scientists & find them incomprehensible.
Post 101.
3. Male Telicota besta bina.
The upperside pic . with space 2 base orange & the slightly curved brand (nearer inner border of black space)is undoubtably that of T. besta.
Despite there being 4 (possibly 5) species in Singapore the Telicota species prove very difficult to ID in field shots.
Attachment 28389
Telicota colon.
This is easily IDed because FW spots 4 & 5 are staggered out from spot 3.
Spots 4 & 5 are often distorted.
The female have more regular spots 4 & 5 & is harder to ID.
Male
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/16412344
Female.
Female have the upper FW cellend bar 2X longer than the lower one.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6234960
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19466893
Telicota besta. Colour in fieldshots very variable.
This is closely related to T. colon
FW with an orange patch at the base of space 2 (visible also on the underside. Females of all species lack this patch.
Male brand set near to the inner border of the black space so there is an area of black adjacent to it.
Female with upper FW cellend bar loner (as in T. colon female).
Underside with veins lightly dark-dusted, usually with raised veins & shadowlines.
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/17850769
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NbpYa8Xex...0/DSC_0294.JPG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg
Females.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7...male_up_01.jpg
https://butterflycircle.blogspot.com...palm-dart.html
Telicota augias. Very bright orangey usually.
Male FW with an orange patch at the base of space 2 as in T. colon & besta.
More uniform deep orange ,veins not dark dusted.
Male brand large filling the black space. Abdominal end orange, only lightly shaded.
Female with upper cellend bar longer as in the other two species.
Female more orange than other, HW band deeper orange & contrasted (like Cephrene trichopepla.)
Males.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZ...ias_male_2.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/92869158
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/96594881
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/30099087
Note UnH veins not dark-dusted; UpF with space 2 base orange & large brand filling the black space.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/104101569
Females.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20417040
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29427418
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20417040
Telicota linna.
Male& female UnH veins not dark-dusted,
Male base of space 2 black. Abdominal end shaded darker.Underside ground colour tend to be duskier.
Female with both FW cellend bars short.
Underparts often paler.
Males.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148087973
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145415503
Females.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMIT...male_up_01.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145490544
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131436418
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/121857183
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Seeking your assistance to ID the following skippers. As the forum seemed to not be functioning properly for me on web, please access the iNat links to view the photos.
Thank you!
1) Telicota besta? as there seemed to be dark dusting on HW wings.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181036284
2) Pelopidas agna?
uniform brown colour and larger than P. mathias.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539431
3) Telicota besta?
Quite orange but based on the male brand drawing it seemed to resemble more to T. besta.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539441
4) Pelopidas sp.
Initial impression is P. conjuctus but the FW spots doesnt look to be much larger than HW spot? So probably P. agna?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539446
5) Pelopidas agna?
Uniform brown and larger than typical P. mathias.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539447
6) Pelopidas mathias?
Dirty mix of grey and brown.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539453
7) Telicota sp.
Rather orange but probably leaning towards T. besta.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181540099
Post 104.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181036284
1.Female Telicota besta.
Dull colour ;veins dark-dusted.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539431
2. Female Pelopidas agna.
Uniform ochreous brown.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539441
3. Telicota besta male.
Note brand nearer the triangular orange patch in space 2 than the main band.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539446
4. Male Pelopidas agna.
Note some FW spots are visible, & are small & not yellow.
Male & female P. conjunctus.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lt_Khew_03.jpg
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...s-1080x675.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539447
5. Female Pelopidas agna.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539453
6. Male Pelopidas agna.
FW is rather tattered & worn .HW colour unoform.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181540099
7. Male Telicota besta.
Fairly typical, with raised veins & dark linings.
TL Seow: CHeers.
PS. P. mathias & agna males with upperside confirmation.
P. mathias males.
UpF spots 2 & 3 quadrate ; Underside with dirty uneven shadings.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a966070e-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a966070e-3.jpg
P. agna males.
UpF spots 2 & 3 narrow; Underside uniform brown, without dirty shadings.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4fb1355a-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4fb1355a-3.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-2.jpg
Hi Dr Seow,
Could you help to verify the following 2 skippers please.
Thank you!
1) Potanthus trachala?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641821
2) Caltoris sp. Maybe C. bromus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641820
Post 106.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641821
1. Potanthus trachala. Female on the left )greyer).
Note FW spots 4 & 5 are only connected above & below by the spikes to the other.
HW upper block of the band projected outwards.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641820
2. Caltoris bromus male.
Three species have more prominent pale areas on the antennal shafts.
Caltoris bromus
FW typically with two large subapical spots ;upper cellspot also large.
HW dark brown & nearly the same tone as FW.
Female paler, with HW spots 2 & 3.
Male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/163945647
Caltoris cahira.
FW with large subapical spots (2 usually) & upper cellspot.
HW dark chocolate brown without red tone contrasting with FW.
Male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183638559
Female.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg
Caltoris cormasa.
FW subapical spots small two or often three. Upper cellspot small.
HW heavily overlaid with redbrown scales.
Redder tone than in all other species.
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151597328
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162264663
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612106
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178143673
Note subapical spots are small. Less red example.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641828
Females.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/147253163
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173170595
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173170576
Caltoris malaya
Pale area on the antennae weak or none.
FW subapical spots usually two. Cellspot usually none ,ocassionally a tiny one.
male rusty brown, female more ochreous.
Male. Note front antenna no pale area.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133445751
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/161212993
With a tiny upper cellspot but only on the underside.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181903883
Other confusion.
Baoris species.
FW subapical spots reduced.
Upper cellspot may be crescentic.
Antennae mostly black.
HW may have aq pale area at cellend.
[B]Abdomen noticeably banded.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/165866621
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151120606
Female probably B. farri.
Full complement of spots, black antennae, banded abdomen.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153765692
Male Quedara monteithi.
No FW spot, bulging palpi (labial palps).
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/164372780
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Managed to uncover this photo in my archives.
Could this be Rapala damona?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184711958
Thank you!
Post 108.
Yes. It is a female Rapala damona.
The two R. suffusa & damona are closely similar.
HW with the postdiscal band in space 1b, above the speckled patch arched or domed.
FW postdiscal band distinctly curved in toward s the costa.
Rapala suffusa.
HW speckled patch in space 1b usually occupy half or less of the marginal zone.
Orange crown in space 2 not visible, merging with the ground colour.
Males.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...h_Jonathan.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59847707
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/73307440
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/30675458
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/122791984
Females.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/production-...rop_x_152_.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lash_Ellen.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-66Xxi-yYP...ash-SunnyC.png
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/60172517
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59960237
Rapala damona.
HW speckled patch occupy 80% or more of the marginal zone in space 1b.
HW orange crown not well-defined, weak, obscure or not visible.
Males
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4687/...9e6a2623_c.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181903884
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183617588
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124369699
Females.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184711958
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184248821
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124682032
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184376205
TL Seow: cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Can I check if this skipper is Parnara bada?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188256849
Thank you!
Post 110.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188256849
Yes. It is.
Attachment 28460
Parnara species.
antennae short & the clubs thick.
UpF subapical spots 6 & 7in line; if spot 8 is present, it is usually also in line.
UnH may have a diffuse cellend spot.
UnH spot 7 is always absent.
Two known species in Singapore.
Parnra bada.
unH spots variable & may be entirely absent.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145116379
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186224442
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135756671
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185704994
Parnara ganga.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93040001.html
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/7874934
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135217962
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140252167
Probably this below is Parnara ganga.
FW spot 3 is oblong & seem nearer spot 2,( the margins of spot 2 blurry) & UnH spots relatively large.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/33117386
Tl Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Could you help to shed light on what this Arhopala could be?
Thank you.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/189320986
Post 112.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/189320986
This practically certain to be a female Arhopala milleri.
Note the longer palpi (labial palps) The abdominal end with a longer slant cut.
Compare with a male A. sublustris given below.
Three species recorded in Singapore are very similar & almost impossible to identify correctly.
A. sublustris is the most common
UnF postdiscal band uppermost spot 9 is typically dislocated & shifted inwards on the costal margin.
UnH spot 6 widest at the top & tapers down wards.
Male upperside bright blue, more reflective.
Female with HW brown border wide. FW blue not reaching the tornal margin, brown border being uniformly broad
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82170010.html
This is likely A. sublustris male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/189202433
See Otsuka L206.
A. milleri.
UnF postdiscal band spot 9 less dislocated ,sometime in line with the rest.
HW spot 6 as in A. sulustris
Male darkisk less reflective blue.
Female UpF blue reaches tornal margin ,HW brownish blue reaches the margin.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82160001.html
see Otsuka L207 for female.
A. normani .
UnF spot 9 slightly dislocated.
UnH spot 6 with the side margins straighter.
Male upperside darker blue than A. sublustris.
Female as in A. sublustris.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82140001.html
Otsuka L212.
If you don't have Otsuka you can get a free download.
http://www17.plala.or.jp/jamides/Bor.../borneo-e.html
It looks a perfect match.
TL Seow :Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
could the following skipper be Pelopidas assamensis?
It was way larger than P. mathias and P. agna; roughly 1.5x P. conjuncta with large FW spots.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/191449162
Thank you!
It is a female Pelopidas conjunctus.
The two larger species differs in that both sexes have a spot in FW space 1b (both sides).
In P agna & mathias, only the female have this spot.
Size reference.
P. mathias FW 16-18mm.
P. agna FW 17-20 mm.
P. assamensis is very large FW 25.5- 26.5 mm.
FW & HW with prominently white spots, large on the FW.
Antenna with a white band that goes nearly all round.
Females
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/31291038
https://www.nparks.gov.sg/-/media/ff...46f461e50.ashx
Probable male.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...0Ben%20Jin.jpg
Pelopidas conjunctus FW 21.5 to 23.5 mm.
Antenna with a pale area mostly on the underside & not prominent.
UnH spots are white but UnF spots are yellow & large.
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151597347
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19877822
Females.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FvDO3Lfw_...lt_Khew_03.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/155888799
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/132122838
Much more common than P. assamensis.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr. Seow,
Could I check if this skipper could be Zographetus ogygia?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/242493174
Thank you!
Sebastian
Post 116.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/242493174
Yes. This is Zographetus ogygia.
There are two identical species, Z. ogygia & ogygioides.
Only Z. ogygia have been recorded in Singapore.
https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000428
The difference is in the male.
The male of Z. ogygia have streaks of specialised scales (brands) on the UpF.
The male of Z. ogygioides lacks these specialised scales.
The separation of the females is as Eliot puts it a matter of guesswork.
There is a good pic of a male Z. ogygia which shows these.
If you use google zoom you can see several streaks between the large spot 2 & the cubitus (lower arm of the FW cell), in particular two longer streaks on either side of vein 2 (which appears dark).
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...gygia-JonS.jpg
https://butterflycircle.blogspot.com...itions-to.html
In Thailand they are called Rusty Flitter & Red Flitter but this does not seem helpful.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Zographetus-ogygia
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Z...tus-ogygioides
In India it is even more complicated.
They are two main forms, both treated as Zographetus ogygia ogygia,ie same taxonomic name as here.
The one in the northeast is roughly similar .
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...as_as937_0.jpg
The one in south India is quite different, rather like Z. satwa.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...doth_ae970.jpg
These probably need revision.
TL Seow: Cheers.