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Hi Doctor Seow,
Today's outing brought me low skippers but high number of lascars, pantoporia specifically. I attach inat links once again to ensure quality and clarity.
1 - P.sandaka? i note the submarginal grey band isnt very thick
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397320
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2 - P.sandaka also?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134398046
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3 - P.sandaka also? The wings are folded and ive only got this shot
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397335
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4 - P.hordonia? The submarginal line is much thicker in this one compare to the above two. Inat link has more photo than the ones here, which after downsizing is somewhat blurry on computer end
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397329
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5 - borbo cinnara, no hindwing cellspot
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397353
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6 - p.lubricans? i notice yellow forewing spots but seems a bit wear and tear
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397318
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With regards
Zicky
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5 Borbo cinnara. Note also thick antennal club.
6. Polytremis lubricans male .Note also rough scalings & antenna.
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Pantoporia in Singapore.
All five species were recorded in the past in Singapore.
Two, P. aurelia & dindinga are likely extinct.
P. paraka have grey -orange FW submarginal bands .
The other two P. hordonia & sandaka have been widely confused throughout their range.
Both have an orange FW submarginal band and a grey one inner to it.
The FW postdiscal spot in space 2 is large with a 'foot' along the lower margin )dorsum)
The foot is exceptionally latge & long in the male P. sandaka.
Females of both species do not have an extended foot.
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Pantoporia hordonia hordonia.
The status of P. hordonia is uncertain in Singapore.
Possibly it has become extinct, its genes mixed into some population of P. sandaka.
P. hordonia hordonia.
FW grey submarginal band wider thanthe orange band typically 2X wider, unbroken & continuous.
FW orange submarginal band tend to fade at the apex, particularly in the female.Often the orange band is broken or near obsolete.
Male foot of the postdiscal band small.
Typical males. P. Malaysia.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6TIVtGI_ok...0/DSC_0229.JPG
https://alchetron.com/cdn/pantoporia...esize-750.jpeg
https://a4.pbase.com/g4/25/686825/2/...1.bMw5eaEm.jpg
Females.
P. Malaysia.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsULpFSI_...0/DSC_2572.JPG
Female P. Malaysia from C&P4.
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Thailand.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/f2...fd389661b5.jpg
Cambodia.
https://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/lif...rdonia-1xu.jpg
Java.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.jungl...llOUX2YXdTg%3D
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Pantoporia sandaka sandaka.
FW with the orange band intact & prominent.
The grey band is is much reduced, broken or beaded in the male.
Male with a large foot to the postdiscal spot.
Female is rather variable.
FW submarginal band usually expanded at the apex.
Grey band may be broken, but can be prominent.
Typical males.
P.Malaysia.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c8rXTibfeq...0/DSC_0137.JPG
Singapore.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uNRH3neo0...ascar-Fed3.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1187/...dbdb16cd75.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2610/large.jpg
Females.
With the grey band broken or narrow as in the male.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...erick%20Ho.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...wsiRg&usqp=CAU
More often the grey band is wider, causing a lot of confusion with P. hordonia.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...Lascar@MNT.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...278/large.jpeg
Female specimen(Singapore) in Natural History Museum Uk.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fMpoo&usqp=CAU
Female (P. Malaysia) from C&P4.
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1, 2, & 3 are typical male Pantoporia sandaka sandaka.
Note in 3 the closeness of the submarginal orange band to the other spots & the long 'foot'.
4. In the past I would have quickly conclude this typical P. hordonia based on the wide grey band.
Consider the following facts.
1. There are a dozen or so identifiable male P. sandaka , but not a single male specimen of P. hordonia have been observed I believed for more than 20 years.
The last recognisable P. hordonia males appear to be these two.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eHnx5jNOl...ascar-KSK5.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oiSX3-kyP...ascar-KSK4.jpg
The identification of the species is based on the male.
Without a single observation of a confirmed male P. hordonia, 4 is likely to be a female P. sandaka.
Note the orange band does not fade out at the apex.
TL Seow; Cheers.
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Additional note.
The male of P. sandaka have a large white speculum ( a patch of specialised scales) on the HW.
This is largely hidden at rest.
It is sometimes seen as a white highlight indicating its lower margin.
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c8rXTibfeq...0/DSC_0137.JPG
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uNRH3neo0...ascar-Fed3.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
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Thank you so much doctor Seow for such a insightful explanation! Words cannot express the feeling i have now but i find it extremely helpful! But this eans i still have to keep looking for p.hordonia somewhere in SG
Regards
Zicky
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Dear Doctor Seow,
i have return with the classic skipper ID, which today i am confident of the one i require help with. Please correct any mistake shall you spot any
1 - p.omaha
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135350918
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2 - p.lubricans, but seems very yellowish brown
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135350953
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3 - t.colon. I decided t.colon base on forewing space 4 and 5. The colour seems deeper than the usual, but i concluded it is simply a worn out individual
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135350954
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Skipping regards!
Zicky
