Some Moths That Need ID (Part 4)...

Another moths that i need help to ID. Thanks...

1) Padenia duplicana or Padenia obliquifascia? - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/155726046 = Padenia duplicana
2) http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/155586047 = Bembina isabellina
3) http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/154106014 = Metasia cf. ateloxantha
4) Hydriris ornatilis? - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/157396050 = Hydriris ornatilis
5) Brunia antica or Brunia sarawaca? - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/161166022 = Brunia antica
6) Hemonia orbiferana or Hemonia rotundata? - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/158166024 = Hemonia orbiferana
7) http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/162956004 = Nishada chilomorpha
8) Geometrid Moth - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/151906306 = Scopula cf. planidisca
9) http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/151706154 = Holocraspedon bilineata
10) Cosmophila flava? - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/164496026 = Anomis flava
11) http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/163206040 = Progonia oileusalis
12) Scopula parodites? - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/146076009 = Scopula parodites
13) Tussock Moth - http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12651213384/
14) http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650910733/ = Diduga flavicostata
15) Spilosoma hypogopa? - http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650953003/ = Spilosoma hypogopa
16) http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650936803/ = Eugoa cyclota
17) http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650981423/ = Acria cf. ceramitis
18) http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12817880123/ = Somena similis

Moth 1 should be Padenia duplicana.

Although the outer band resembles that of P. obliquifascia in being more sigmoid or sinuous, there are 2 points to note.
1. The lower part of the band runs along the margin as in duplicana.
2. The 2 bands are more or less parallel. In obliquifascia they converged at the costa (forward margin).

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No. 2 should be male Bembina isabellina Lymantrinae, Erebidae.
The band & dark peripheral areas are correctly placed; antennae pectinate.
The FW apex have a distinctive white patch.
The distinctive white discal spot is hard to see in the low-res image, but is mentioned in the text.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...gmiini_9_1.php

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No. 3 should be a Crambidae species.
It typically rest with the abdomen upturn.
A tough one to ID.

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No. 4 Hydriris ornatalis is right.
There are a lot of images of this widespread species . Crambidae.

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No. 5. probably Brunia antica.

It looks like nigh impossible to separate the females of the two species.
Brunia antica is much the commoner of the two.

Valid examples of B. sarawaca.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...20sarawaca.htm

Valid examples of Brunia antica. B. sarawaca is unknown in HK.
http://www.ccs-hk.org/DM/butterfly/A...ia-antica.html
http://www.hkwildlife.net/viewthread...table&tid=8024

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No. 6 should be Hemonia orbiferana.
1. The FW apex is more rounded.
2. The basal areas of the FWs are much darker shaded.
3. The black margin of the FW apex ends about 1/3 on the costa (forward margin) & does not extend down to the base as in rotundata.

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No. 9 should be Holocraspedon bilineata. Arctiinae.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/...walker_2_1.php

From Sabah.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/3...49ba7fa3ba.jpg

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No. 10 is correct.

Latest revision now placed it as Anomis flava . Widespread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomis_flava

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No 15 is right.
A good match for the female in MoB. Markings may varies a lot.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-6/...tiinae-1-9.php

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No. 14 Diduga flavicostata. Arctiinae.

Note the long simple antenna of Arctiinae.
From HK.
http://www.pbase.com/image/122744046
Taiwan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bettaman/3994795709/
This Australian website appeared to be in error. (should be Cyclosiella sp.)
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...ct/flavic.html

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No. 7 . Most likely Nishada chilomorpha. Arctiinae.

The appearance is fairly typical of an Arctiinine.
The FW is completely unmarked.
Note on the left FW, the colour deepens/darkens towards the lower basal half.
On the lower or inner margin (dorsum) is a dark line between the lighter & darker areas.
These features will only match one species in MoB ie, Nishada chilomorpha.
(The left FW is partially damaged in the MoB image below.)
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/...osiini_3_1.php
The only difference is that the image from MoB have a bit of dark border on the outer margin (termen).

It is quite difficult to compare low-res museum specimen image . The paratype specimen shown dates to 1977 & is in poor condition.

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No. 16.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650936803/
Is there a size error here?

The only likely match seen is this.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15...rrodes_3_1.php
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=224755
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...a%20renasa.htm

The size here is about 2cm body length.
The grey fasciation on the wings may be slight.

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No. 13.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12651213384/

Although a typical Lymantrine, this one proves very difficult to ID.
If this moth is in MoB then it is very likely this.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...miini_14_3.php

The markings resembles Euproctis but the fasciae are dark not pale.
The 'spot' & the inner fascia are diffusely broadened to the costa (forward margin).
As stated in the text the male is very variable & may be plain brown.


TL Seow:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Psyche

No. 16.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650936803/
Is there a size error here?

The only likely match seen is this.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15...rrodes_3_1.php
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=224755
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...a%20renasa.htm

The size here is about 2cm body length.
The grey fasciation on the wings may be slight.

TL Seow:cheers:

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There is no size error... The moth in that picture is small (about 6-8 mm in body length)... So, i think it is not Anereuthina renosa...

Here is the side view of this moth - http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12739447544/.

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Originally Posted by Lanzz

There is no size error... The moth in that picture is small (about 6-8 mm in body length)... So, i think it is not Anereuthina renosa...

Here is the side view of this moth - http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12739447544/.

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I see. The wingshape & size suggest it is a Tortricid moth.

TL Seow:cheers:

No. 13.

These are correct images of Rhypotoses glebula. They closely matched the image in MoB.
The differently shaped fasciation, lack of the black discal spot & variegated patches makes no. 13 an unlikely match.
No. 13 is probably a species not recorded in Borneo.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=189583

TL Seow:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Psyche

No. 13.

These are correct images of Rhypotoses glebula. They closely matched the image in MoB.
The differently shaped fasciation, lack of the black discal spot & variegated patches makes no. 13 an unlikely match.
No. 13 is probably a species not recorded in Borneo.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=189583

TL Seow:cheers:

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Here is the picture of moth of the same species with No. 13. But, the color of this one is paler...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1110061...7163/lightbox/

Look like my pictures is not matched with the images of Rhypotoses glebula from boldsystems.org...

No. 17
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650981423/

This is another Tortricid moth.
For example this European Acleris emergana shows the same distorted forward margin(costa)
http://www.hmbg.org/uploads/images/1...s-emargana.jpg
Another A. sparsana shows a similar wing pattern.
http://www.tuin-thijs.com/images/vli...ller-4-31-.jpg

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No. 8 Closest to Scopula planidisca but not quite right.
Two species with large HW discal black spot.
The wing margins are more strongly darkened in planidisca.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10...ulini_5_10.php
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10...pulini_5_9.php

No. 12 probably Scopula parodites.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10...ulini_5_12.php
The diagnosis is one of exclusion.
4 discal black dots, wingshape, no special mark or shading & its occurence in the area.

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I am afraid the rest are way too tough without proper resources.

3. A Crambid (also could be Pyralid).

11. A Pyralid. I seemed to recall seeing something like this in a Japanese website.

13. Like a brown Euproctis but no match seen.

16. This appeared to be an unusual Tortrid.

17. Very likely a Tortrid.

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No. 11 Progonia oileusalis Noctuiidae. Herminiinae. ( Correction :Herminiinae is now placed in the family Erebidae )

Here is a piece of luck.
In looking at a website I saw a pix which looks familiar.
A search for the name yield a positive result.
Your pix 3 is the clearest & all the markings & their position match correctly.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/8488728672/
Variations.
http://m5.i.pbase.com/o6/05/598805/1...oileusalis.jpg
http://www.jpmoth.org/Noctuidae/Herm...ileusalis.html

I actually have part 17 of MoB (not available on website)containing Herminiinae but the image is so small & poor that it looks different.

TL Seow:cheers:

A 2nd bit of luck.

No 16. Eugoa cyclota . Erebidae, Arctiinae.

A species not found in Borneo.
Note all the markings match.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths...hongkongmoths/

TL Seow:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Psyche

A 2nd bit of luck.

No 16. Eugoa cyclota . Erebidae, Arctiinae.

A species not found in Borneo.
Note all the markings match.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths...hongkongmoths/

TL Seow:cheers:

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Wow, another luck... Thanks you very much...

No. 3 Crambidae.

http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/154106014
At best, this is very likely a Metasia species.

This is very similar to the one below, in wingshape & the fasciation.
Note also the FW have a similar pale mark at the lower corner (tornus).
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...eloxantha.html

TL Seow:cheers:

I must say that the similarity of No. 3 with Metasia ateloxantha is very great.

Here is Bold System of M. ateloxantha specimens from Australia.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=328731

Compare your pix with the 2nd image top row.
The bands on the abdomen are almost identical.
Note the live individual have ite abdomen bent upwards ,so it appears shorter.

The 1st narrow white band is at the level of the 2nd wing fascia.
This is foollowed by a broad dark band.
The 2nd pale broad band (whitish in your pix) has a narrow dark band in it ; the whole is at he level of the 3rd wing fascia.
Lastly is a broad black band with a narrow white one at the lower margin.

I would venture to say from the wing pattern & abdominal marking the match is very good.

However, there is no distribution record except for Australia.
It could be this species or a very similar allied species in Asia.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Psyche

I must say that the similarity of No. 3 with Metasia ateloxantha is very great.

Here is Bold System of M. ateloxantha specimens from Australia.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=328731

Compare your pix with the 2nd image top row.
The bands on the abdomen are almost identical.
Note the live individual have ite abdomen bent upwards ,so it appears shorter.

The 1st narrow white band is at the level of the 2nd wing fascia.
This is foollowed by a broad dark band.
The 2nd pale broad band (whitish in your pix) has a narrow dark band in it ; the whole is at he level of the 3rd wing fascia.
Lastly is a broad black band with a narrow white one at the lower margin.

I would venture to say from the wing pattern & abdominal marking the match is very good.

However, there is no distribution record except for Australia.
It could be this species or a very similar allied species in Asia.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Yes, they look similar... I will go with Metasia cf. ateloxantha.

No. 17. Acria cf. ceramitis. Peleopodidae.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650981423/


Not quite sure if it is this species although it is very likely to be.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths...57616900373998
http://www.jpmoth.org/Peleopodidae/Acria_ceramitis.html

Another A. cocophaga is a pest on coconut & oil palm.
http://www.pestnet.org/SummariesofMe...,AP,India.aspx

There is little info on this obscure family.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. This moth is also placed under various families.
1. Elaschistidae, Depressariinae.
2. Oecophoridae, Xylorectinae.

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Originally Posted by Psyche

No. 17. Acria cf. ceramitis. Peleopodidae.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12650981423/


Not quite sure if it is this species although it is very likely to be.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths...57616900373998
http://www.jpmoth.org/Peleopodidae/Acria_ceramitis.html

Another A. cocophaga is a pest on coconut & oil palm.
http://www.pestnet.org/SummariesofMe...,AP,India.aspx

There is little info on this obscure family.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. This moth is also placed under various families.
1. Elaschistidae, Depressariinae.
2. Oecophoridae, Xylorectinae.

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No. 17 look similar with Acria ceramitis... So, i'll go with Acria cf. ceramitis...

Today i found another moth, Lymantriidae (Tussock Moth)...
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12817880123/

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Originally Posted by Psyche

No. 11 Progonia oileusalis Noctuiidae. Herminiinae. ( Correction :Herminiinae is now placed in the family Erebidae )

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So, this moth under the family Erebidae or Noctuiidae?

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Originally Posted by Lanzz

Today i found another moth, Lymantriidae (Tussock Moth)...
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/111006196@N05/12817880123/



So, this moth under the family Erebidae or Noctuiidae?

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No. 18 male Somena similis.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...gmiini_2_1.php
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=160992
(I actually happened to find a male in my bathroom a few weeks ago.)

Under the latest revision backed by DNA studies Erebidae now includes
Lymantriinae.
Arctiinae.
Erebinae (formerly Catocalinae)
many smaller subfamilies including Herminiinae.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Lanzz

Wow, another luck... Thanks you very much...

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currently, E. cyclota is only known from China (see Fauna Sinica Insecta volumes..., Fang, 2000). I would be inclined to refer to the Malay Eugoa as sp. cf. cyclota until such time as voucher material has been dissected. It is not beyond the realms of impossibility that the one in your photo is cyclota, or a new species.

cheers,
Roger.

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Originally Posted by Psyche

No. 18 male Somena similis.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...gmiini_2_1.php
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=160992
(I actually happened to find a male in my bathroom a few weeks ago.)

Under the latest revision backed by DNA studies Erebidae now includes
Lymantriinae.
Arctiinae.
Erebinae (formerly Catocalinae)
many smaller subfamilies including Herminiinae.

TL Seow:cheers:

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see Reza Zahiri (et al) . . . http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...1.00607.x/full