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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    Thank you so much Dr. Seow for all your review and detailed discussion.
    I got quite confused on
    18. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1737379694
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...2&d=1737380401

    Here are the specimen images of this above attached individual collected.

    No. 18 Revision

    DSC_3463.jpg DSC_3476.jpg

    Does this match Amblychia pardicelata?

    After going through some web searches and taxonomic review of the old literature, this also has resemblance with A. hymenaria.

    Kindly help me out in this case.

    Literature suggest the underside of A. pardicelata to be whitish with a large black spot at the end of the discal area.

    This is perhaps a male individual.
    What a terrible confusing mess.
    You are right.
    It should be Amblychia hymenaria.

    In SE Asia including neigbouring Thailand, A. hymenaria have a distinct oblique white FW band.
    https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-1...miini_22_3.php
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1415534380
    https://data.nhm.ac.uk/search
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2598681142

    Strange to have banded form in S, India.(Correction : female have stronger band.)
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3988792638

    Hampson's description.
    https://archive.org/details/moths03h...p?view=theater

    Matching images.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...6ef6fe61-1.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...6ef6fe61-2.jpg



    Amblychia nimia.
    Prout's description.
    https://archive.org/details/novitate...p?view=theater
    Prout indicate Hampson's description of A. hymenaria should be A. procellosa, but 'procellosa' is now a junior synonym of hymenaria.
    Correction: Prout was referring to Warren's description of hymenaria which should be procellosa.
    Note UnF heavy with confluent spots.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...549b2b28-2.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...549b2b28-1.jpg


    Amblychia pardicellata
    Walker's description
    https://archive.org/details/listofsp...p?view=theater
    Warren's
    https://archive.org/details/moths03h...p?view=theater

    More or less matching images.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...fd44b281-2.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...fd44b281-1.jpg

    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...63c10d6b-2.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...63c10d6b-1.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    PS.
    Likely an intermediate cross, possibly with nimia.
    The underside is as in hymenaria, but the white patch beyond the discal spot is rather weak
    PS2.
    All forms of A. hymenaria typically have some form of an oblique band on the FW.
    From India & Sri Lanka.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gall...n_key=11560614
    Guenee's description of A. hymenaria is in French.
    His description of the underside is as follow.
    White underside, whipped with black, with a wide black border indented at the terminal edge by white spots that are missing between 1 and 1'.
    Last edited by Psyche; 02-Feb-2025 at 01:05 AM.

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