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    21. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/205064831
    Likely as Dacalana vidura or ugraded as D. azyada.

    The three species D. cremera, sinhara & vidura are so similar that there is great confusion in the past.
    Thus it is necessary to stick to the key closely.

    Dacalana burmana.
    Orange patch small Postdiscal spots a series of lunules (crescent moons)
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Da...urmana-burmana
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/223492304

    Dacalana cremera.
    UnH with an orange band in space 1a edging the black tornal spot.
    Note male on the right have an orange band between the black spot and the epecklrd patch.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257506614

    The next two are the most confusing.

    Dacalana sinhara.
    UnH orange patch large reaching & obliterating the black striae above it.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/180109969
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/222426031
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/222426034
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/69837990
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218168

    Dacalana vidura (or as azyada.)
    UnH orange patch smaller, generally confined to space 2,may reach but not obliterating the black striae above it.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219059777
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/196346110
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150918844
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/37785975

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    22.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194093390

    FW subapical spots 6 & 7 aligned towaeds the lower margin (dorsum)
    UnH vein 8 appeared as equally scaled orange on both sides.
    Three species , P natuna, helena & flavia.
    Doubtful if it can go further without the upperside. Correction: P. flavia.
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    23. faulty link.

    24. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194263379
    Isma ssp.
    Too difficult without the upperside but most likely this species because of the frequent long hyaline spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91990001.html
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/isma-bononia/

    25. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551814

    Curetis santana.

    Un ground specked with black dots.
    FW oblique band.
    UnH postdiscal spot 6 & 7 in line.
    Submarginal spots out of lie.
    eg Singapore.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...lt_Loke_01.jpg


    C. felderi palpi white unspotted.
    UnH postdiscal spot 6 & 7 not in line.
    Likewise submarginal spot 6 & 7 out of line.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84080001.html
    This example from Brunei shows it well but the markings are exaggerated.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cureti...riMUpUnAc1.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Feb-2025 at 04:56 AM.

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    22.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194093390

    "FW subapical spots 6 & 7 aligned towaeds the lower margin (dorsum)
    UnH vein 8 appeared as equally scaled orange on both sides.
    Three species , P natuna, helena & flavia.
    Doubtful if it can go further without the upperside."

    ID. Pyroneura flavia.
    UnF without an opalescent streak in space 5.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-flavia/


    Both P. helena & natuna have an opalescent streak in UnF space 5.

    P. helena.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-helena/

    P. natuna. Raub Pahang.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0207.JPG

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    28.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194263378

    Both A. norda & moolaiana have a white tornal cilial spot.

    As A. norda seem to have a narrower 'V' spot and A. moolaiana a fatter one, my preference is A. norda.

    https://thaibutterflies.com/project_...enidae/page/9/
    Last edited by Psyche; 06-Feb-2025 at 06:23 PM.

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    26.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551824

    female Curetis saronis.
    legs banded brownish; Un band parallel to margin.

    Both C. tagalica & regula have black/dark grey banded legs.

    C. sperthis
    The band may not be quite parallel to margin & the ground is speckled with black dots.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-sperthis.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...etis-sperthis/

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    27.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551830

    Notocrypta paralysos.
    The large spot 4 & the strong step on the outer border of the white band are confirmative.
    White shading to the costa is variable.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91600010.html
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...Anthony_01.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...lateral_01.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/108336751

    Spot 4 in N. clavata is very rare & vestigial, & the band is more regularly curved on the outer border.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91610001.html

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    29.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229697760

    Most likely female Parnara bada,

    The colouration is rather pale, the face whitish & the antennae short.
    There seem to be a single white spot.

    P. bada is very variable in spotting.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...288_242458.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parnar...-09-09-001.jpg

    Baoris penicilliata is stout-built & dark.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...penicillata-2/

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    30. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/256458443

    This is either A. norda or moolaiana.
    Since the V spot is quite fat I am inclined towards A. moolaiana.



    31. Faulty link.



    32. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131677528

    curetis bulis.
    Note UnH postdiscal spot 6 is tuck inwards of spot 7.
    Submarginal spots 6 & 7aligned end to end.
    Legs banded orange/brown.
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Cu...bulis-stigmata


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Dr. Seow,
    Thanks so much for your help. I have forewarded all your id to RY. I believe he is very appreciative and thankful of your help and will further his enthusiasm in butterfly observations and identifications.
    Cheers, SL Liew

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