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    Default ID Request - Peninsular Malaysiaa from RY of Kuala Lumpur - Mar 21, 2025

    Hi Dr. Seow,
    Here are observations in Peninsular Malaysia by teenager RY of Kuala Lumpur who requested me to submit for your help to confirm id.

    RY said he tried to register on this site but his submission could not be completed. Hence requested me to submit on his behalf.

    I hope it is OK with you. Thank you.

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    Hyarotis iadera? Bukit Tingg, Pahang - Feb 11, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341080

    #2
    Isma protoclea? Bentong, Pahang - Mar 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/263475732

    #3
    Halpe flava? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Feb 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341067

    #4
    Stimula swinhoei? Fraser's Hill - Aug 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678104

    #5
    Allotinus corbeti? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Feb 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341077

    #6
    Pyroneura derna? Cheras, Selangor - May 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551816

    #7
    Potanthus mingo? Ampang Jaya, Selangor - Oct 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188986400

    #8
    Halpe zema? Batang Kali, Selangor - Feb 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180326

    #9
    Tanaecia palguna? Genting Highlands - Dec 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/255752757

    #10
    Curetis santana? Taman TAR, KL - Jul 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/175898689

    #11
    Nacaduba calauria? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157408

    #12
    Quedara montheithi? Penang Hill - Dec 2020
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/67230492

    #13
    Potanthus ganda? Penang - Aug 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179091223

    #14
    Curetis insularis? Batang Kali, Selangor - Feb 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180325

    #15
    Neptis miah? Ampang Jaya, Selangor - Oct 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188986397

    #16
    Poritia sumatrae? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627472

    #17
    Lasippa heliodore? Cheras, KL - Aug 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179465240

    #18
    Horaga onyx? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627479

    #19
    Pratapa deva? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157418

    #20
    Arhopala sublustris? Perak - Jul 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229697761

    #21
    Lexias cyanipardus? Batang Kali, Selangor - Aug 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233217033

    #22
    Abisara saturata? Taman TAR, KL - Jul 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174460700

    #23
    Potanthus serina? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Feb 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341075

    #24
    Jamides elpis? Batang Kali, Selangor - Oct 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/189201057

    #25
    Atrophaneura nox? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157405

    #26
    Parnara bada?- Penang - Aug 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179091239

    #27
    Mycalesis visala? - Ampang Jaya - Oct 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188986399

    #28
    Euploea phaenareta? Batang Kali, Selangor - Aug 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233217031

    #29
    Taractrocera archias? Kuala Lumpur - Oct 2020
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/64217208

    #30
    Appias paulina? Sg Congkak, Selangor - May 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152359253

    #31
    Pelopidas mathias? Penang, Aug 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179091237

    #32
    Pelopidas agna? Kuala Lumpur - Sep 2020
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59756630

    #33
    Polytremis lubricans? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627487

    #34A
    Aeromachus pygmaeus? Fraser's Hill - Aug 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678048

    #34B
    Aeromachus pygmaeus? Fraser's Hill - Oct 2020
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/62102339

    #35
    Oriens goloides? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Feb 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341073

    #36
    Allotinus leogoron? Kuala Kubu Bharu, Selangor - Mar 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/205064824

    #37
    Erionota torus? Penang - Dec 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/256458421

    #38
    Abisara geza? Kuala Lumpur - Nov 2020
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/66413706

    #39
    Symprenthia hippoclus? Kuala Lumpur - Aug 2023
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/177472283

    #40
    Jamides bochus? Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157404

    #41
    Caltoris cormasa? Ampang Jaya, Selangor - Sep 2022
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135493542

    #42
    Borbo cinnara? Fraser's Hill - Oct 2020
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/62102343

    Whew... a long list - backlog since 2020. Thanks again for your help in advance on behalf of RY of Kuala Lumpur.

    Cheers, SL Liew

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    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341080
    Male Quedara monteithi
    Bulging labial palps.
    Uniform dark gey-brown colour.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-monteithi.jpg

    Hyarotis iadera is browner with some vague shading; labial palps not so prominent.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-1080x720.jpg



    2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/263475732
    Should be male Isma iapis.

    I. iapis UnH dull pale grey ochreous with diffuse spots.
    https://a4.pbase.com/o2/25/686825/1/...._LC86858x.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0314.JPG

    I. protoclea.
    UnH deeper brown with purple tint.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91890010_n001.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/media/2400/6740-1-9a3d9.jpg



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341067
    Should be correct as H. flava.
    UnH postdiscal spots in space 4, & 5 much reduced .
    Spots in 6, & 7 comparatively large.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-flava-web.jpg
    https://res.cloudinary.com/ppc1/imag...hhmwxef8za.jpg

    In other species the interneura spots are more equal in size.
    eg H. wantona
    https://a4.pbase.com/g4/25/686825/2/...0.pC72mTvF.jpg



    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678104
    Ancistroides (Yamela) nigrita.
    Ofte appear uniform in colour in fieldshots.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...obby%20Mun.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/8633748/large.jpg

    Stimula swinhoei.
    Has a diagnostic pale area on the UnF not seen here.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4d53aa7f_0.jpg

    Psolos fuligo.
    The bending of the FW apex often cause an angle of the FW margin.
    FW costal base more arched.
    https://insectaintegration.com/wp-co...uligo-HNH1.jpg
    https://insectaintegration.com/archives/96673



    5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261341077
    Male Allotinus horsfieldi.

    A. corbeti is a small species with more rounded FWs.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...tinus-corbeti/

    A. horsfieldi.
    HW spot 6 under spot 7; FW band broken in the middle.
    Ground light beige, markings mre ochreous.
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...onleogoron.jpg
    Female.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-permagnus.jpg

    A. legoron.
    Much rarer.
    Ground colour greyish-white & markings darker grey.
    HW teeth sharp, may be needle like in the male.
    Male.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama.../original.jpeg

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    6.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551816
    Too blur.


    7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188986400
    Very likely Female Potanthus ganda.


    Abdominal end yellow. ie without a black band.
    So three spp. to consider, O. omaha, ganda & confucius.

    P. omaha
    UnH veins across band dark-disted.
    Ground lightly shaded , with definitive spots.
    Female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/215205369
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/253619236


    P. ganda.
    Underside ground dark-shaded, no defined spot.
    Veins across HW band not or barely dark-dusted.
    Female.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...t_Adult_02.jpg

    P. confucius.
    UnF band often continuous especially in the male, with good overlaps.
    HW veins across band not dark-dusted.
    Ground very lightly dark, bands edged with dark spots.
    Female.
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...piY3tRAq5a4w&s



    8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180326
    Likely to be Halpe zinda

    Two species have the HW band strongly angled out at the tornus.
    There are.
    H. zema. HW band outer margin strongly serrated, yellowish.
    At rest the lower part is angled out more because of the folding effect.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91250010.html
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...e_DSC_1917.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...unte_ah998.jpg
    https://indiabiodiversity.org/files-...20zema/163.jpg

    Halpe elana.
    Band narrow , outer margin very irregular.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91280001.html
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/halpe-elana/



    The next two have the band's lower end less extended & angled but at rest because of the fold also appeared rather angled.
    The bands tend to be whitish, the outer margin more regular.

    H. ormenes.
    Band rather broad.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91260010.html
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...pe-ormenes.jpg

    H. zinda.
    Band narrower, resembling that in zema.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91253010.html
    This observation below also looks to be this species.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/6494...3720832815797/

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    9.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/255752757
    Tanaecia munda male.

    HW arrowheads strongly zigzag, nearer to margin.
    FW & HW arrowheads long.
    HW white extensively in the marginal zone.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847205906
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847207236

    T. palguna.
    Male FW arrowheads shorter nearer margin. HW arrowheads nearer margin..
    Male
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206218
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847207241



    10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/175898689
    Curetis santana.
    HW postdiscal spot 6 & 7 in line.
    HW submarginal spots 6 & 7 dislocated & out of line.
    Legs banded red/orange.



    11.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157408
    Female Nacaduba kurava.
    FW submarginal spots all rounded & broad.

    female N. calauria (right)
    Only FW submarginal spots with sharp points, the rest semi-rectangualr.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...llen%20Tan.JPG



    12.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/67230492
    Notocrypta paralysos.
    Presence of a spot 4 not seen in quedara.
    White band not reaching FW costa fully.



    13.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179091223
    Oriens gola.
    The sinuous FW band is diagnostic.


    14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180325
    Curetis sperthis.
    The ground is marked with some black dots.... santana group, but the FW band is parallel to the margin.
    Legs are banded red/orange.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199180
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    15.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188986397
    Pantoporia paraka.
    P. paraka have very broad orange bands on the underside.
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/P...-paraka-paraka


    16.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627472
    Poritia sumatrae.
    Cinnamon brown markings on a pale ground colour.
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Po...atrae-sumatrae

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    17.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179465240

    Lasippa tiga male.

    Lasippa tiga.
    FW orange submarginal spot 3 is twice as wide as the rest of the spots/band.
    Viewed in the set position.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...44cfc4acbfa1b4

    Lasippa heliodore.
    FW orange submarginal spot 3 about as wide as spot 4 above it.
    In the female submarginal spot 3 is a little wider than spot 4.
    Both are wider than spot 2.
    The spot at the FW cellend is welledged in black.
    Male
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...ac78e9f7ac6a29
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...15ef5c1198598d

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    18.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627479
    Male Horaga syrinx.

    Four species have a very similar appearance.
    The two larger species H. onyx & syrinx have the fore-tibiae banded black.
    The two much smaller spp. H. albimacula & chacedonyx have the fore-tibiae largely white.

    H. onyx .
    UnF white spot broad with a distinct notch.
    HW postdiscal band/line extend across vein 11a to the margin.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199899
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199900
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...a_sp_adult.jpg

    H. syrinx.
    FW spot narrower ,less notched.
    HW postdiscal line falls short of crossing vein 1a.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199957
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199929
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20-%20Khew.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...wbutterfly/169

    The two small species have the foretibiae partially white.
    H. albimacula.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...raga_sp_01.jpg
    H. chacedonyx.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...nyx_HTan01.jpg

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    19. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157418

    female Tajuria cippus.

    The two have similar markings.

    Tajuria cippus.
    FW postdiscal spts mostly lunulate (crescentic) & well-separated.
    HW orange patch small & partly defined by a weak dark line.
    Eyes black.
    Male.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...%20Mun%201.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ck%20Royal%20-
    %20Tan%20CP.jpg


    Pratapa deva.
    FW postdiscal spots composed of short streaks aligned closely.
    HW orange patched large & diffuse reaching the postdiscal spots.
    Eyes light greenish grey.
    Male
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...race%20Tan.jpg
    female.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...lson%20Ong.jpg

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    20.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229697761

    Arhopala silhetensis.Male.
    this is a large species & so the markings appear to be narrow & widely separated.
    The markings are as for the cleander group.
    FW band spot 4 not dislocated & HW postdiscal band fully dislocated at vein 2.
    HW spot 7 sinuous in shape & spot 6 is often free-hanging.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82240010.html
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ar...etensis-adorea
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...-%20horace.jpg



    21.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233217033

    Male Lexias dirtea.
    Antennae fully black above.

    Lexias cyanipardus sandakana
    This is better treated as a separate species from the mainland L. cyanipardus.
    It also have partially orange antennal clubs whereas those of L. cyanipardus are wholly black above.
    It has been upgraded by some authors as L. bangkana.
    L. bangkana.
    Antennal club partially orange.
    FW marginal band reduced to a series of lunules.
    Apex with a white spot.
    Female with bluish-white spots.
    Largely confined to SE Johor.
    Male.
    https://inaturalist.ca/observations/235073031
    Female.
    https://inaturalist.ca/observations/191553828

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    22. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174460700

    Female Abisara kausambi.

    The three species can be confusing.

    A. saturata.
    Male UnF with twin FW bands parallel & not diffusely broad at the top.
    Female with the twin bands diffusely broad curved; UnF oblique white band merges with inner submarginal line.
    HW discal band partly irregular.
    HW twin tornal black spots distorted & sharply pointed.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...ed31c6fc23f80c
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...e8effabf2bc958

    Abisara geza.
    Male UnF with both bands angled inwards & diffusely broad at the top.
    Female also with both bands bent.
    FW white oblique band not fully merging with the submarginal line.
    HW discal line often angled at vein 4.
    HW torna black spots rounded.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...147a7d2e4bc325
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...c069663c94dfbe
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...842c8daa2af012


    A. kausambi.
    Male UnF with inner discal band straight & narrow but outer band diffusely broad.
    Female similar.
    Discal dark line relatively straight.
    HW tornal spots rounded but with points.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...5b632f1159cb27
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...5b632f1159cb27
    Females.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...e0dbc5f7ddcadc
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...57eef72f731929

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